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06-08-2005, 05:39 PM
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[quote name='Sinful7' date='Jun 8 2005, 09:16 AM']I did learn a trade.. What I'm looking for is a job where I'm not a techinician, but a clinician.. I.E. I get to think and make choices, try new things and directly affect the heading of the company.
And It's a whole lot easier to start my own business when I have a degree. I gotta imagine it's difficult to startup without credentials to present to your investors.
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what kind of business you thinking of?
a good trade also involves making decisions everyday that effect the outcome of the project, trying new methods to improve upon what your doing
your hands and your brain effect the company
And It's a whole lot easier to start my own business when I have a degree. I gotta imagine it's difficult to startup without credentials to present to your investors.
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what kind of business you thinking of?
a good trade also involves making decisions everyday that effect the outcome of the project, trying new methods to improve upon what your doing
your hands and your brain effect the company
06-08-2005, 05:54 PM
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[quote name='Baldy' date='Jun 8 2005, 08:55 AM']Difficult when you have dependants to feed, chasing your "dream job" could be a selfish act that results in hunger and debt.
The hard part to realize is that my father has been in the job for over 20 years, and has only really been able to succeed in the last 5 or so. I'd love to do that work, but it would take longer to make more (than my current path), and there's too much uncertainty in that job. He had to work 2 jobs (driving out of town evenings and weekends to a second shop) just to support the family.
I love the skilled labor work, seeing things go from raw wood to a pedistal where laws are made, and I'd love to learn everything my father knows and work as he does. Which wouldn't be so bad if I was "on my own", but it's just not in the cards now. I told him he should teach his trade, but he doesn't have the patience to deal with students/an apprentice.
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Think about it though, when your Dad is dead and gone (yea that's sounds bad, but stick with me). He'll have a legacy that few people do. Things he built/made will last years and years and you're grand children's grand children will be storing their toys in the chest that great, great, great grandpa made. When my great aunt and uncle died there was only two things I wanted. An old cedar chest that was made by a family member 6 generations or better ago and indian arrow heads that had been found on my great, great grandfathers farm.
It's something that few of us can really say "I built that" in my opinion is one of the most satisfying statements a person can make.
The hard part to realize is that my father has been in the job for over 20 years, and has only really been able to succeed in the last 5 or so. I'd love to do that work, but it would take longer to make more (than my current path), and there's too much uncertainty in that job. He had to work 2 jobs (driving out of town evenings and weekends to a second shop) just to support the family.
I love the skilled labor work, seeing things go from raw wood to a pedistal where laws are made, and I'd love to learn everything my father knows and work as he does. Which wouldn't be so bad if I was "on my own", but it's just not in the cards now. I told him he should teach his trade, but he doesn't have the patience to deal with students/an apprentice.
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Think about it though, when your Dad is dead and gone (yea that's sounds bad, but stick with me). He'll have a legacy that few people do. Things he built/made will last years and years and you're grand children's grand children will be storing their toys in the chest that great, great, great grandpa made. When my great aunt and uncle died there was only two things I wanted. An old cedar chest that was made by a family member 6 generations or better ago and indian arrow heads that had been found on my great, great grandfathers farm.
It's something that few of us can really say "I built that" in my opinion is one of the most satisfying statements a person can make.
06-08-2005, 06:33 PM
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[quote name='Baldy' date='Jun 8 2005, 07:55 AM']Difficult when you have dependants to feed, chasing your "dream job" could be a selfish act that results in hunger and debt.
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True. And I didn't mean that people in dire straits should use it as an excuse not to work. But finding yourself in an unfulfilling career will not be helping your dependants, as you sink into depression and alcoholism and eventually commit suicide. Also a selfish act, BTW.
Even with dependants, you are more than a wage earner. You are a husband, a father. Your success in these roles is ultimately far more important than your role as a wage earner.
I'm just saying that a young, single person should be looking to find something he enjoys doing, rather than something he knows will offer a big paycheck. Don't sell out. Follow your dreams.
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True. And I didn't mean that people in dire straits should use it as an excuse not to work. But finding yourself in an unfulfilling career will not be helping your dependants, as you sink into depression and alcoholism and eventually commit suicide. Also a selfish act, BTW.
Even with dependants, you are more than a wage earner. You are a husband, a father. Your success in these roles is ultimately far more important than your role as a wage earner.
I'm just saying that a young, single person should be looking to find something he enjoys doing, rather than something he knows will offer a big paycheck. Don't sell out. Follow your dreams.
06-08-2005, 06:57 PM
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[quote name='Sinful7' date='Jun 8 2005, 08:16 AM']And It's a whole lot easier to start my own business when I have a degree. I gotta imagine it's difficult to startup without credentials to present to your investors.
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Don't be too eager to get investors. They will give you money. In exchange, they will require part ownership of your business, your *********, your soul.
Better to start small, prove your business model, funnel your profits into your business and grow, grow, grow.
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Don't be too eager to get investors. They will give you money. In exchange, they will require part ownership of your business, your *********, your soul.
Better to start small, prove your business model, funnel your profits into your business and grow, grow, grow.
06-09-2005, 08:30 AM
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[quote name='1988RedT2' date='Jun 8 2005, 06:33 PM']I'm just saying that a young, single person should be looking to find something he enjoys doing, rather than something he knows will offer a big paycheck. Don't sell out. Follow your dreams.
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Of course! My point was that I WOULD like to continue on the skilled trade, I just can't (not practically, anyway).
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Of course! My point was that I WOULD like to continue on the skilled trade, I just can't (not practically, anyway).
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