Insert BS here A place to discuss anything you want!
View Poll Results: Do you believe car magazine performance stats?
Yes
18.75%
No
81.25%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

How Many Of You Guys Actually Believe

Old Apr 15, 2003 | 12:21 AM
  #11  
teknics's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 4,837
From: Wayne, NJ
Default

Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Apr 15 2003, 12:18 AM
I have yet to see a S2000 at the 1/4 mile strip break into the 13's a majority of them are in the 15's. Far cry from the magazine results.



I usually add about 0.5 to 1 second to the 1/4 mile times fro cars for real world driving.



I watched a modded C-5 run a 13.4 this past weekend. I thought they were high 12 second cars?



Magazine takes the car gets a pro. Uses an optimum track and tries and tries until they get the desired results. Imagine how good you could get your launch if you practiced it a couple of dozen times in a row without waiting 2 hours between runs.



Magazine #'s are not real.
s2k's need someone who knows how to drive them correctly in order to get a good time. People often launch them way out of their powerband. If you dont launch at 7k rpms and above you'll run 15's. Thats why so many s2k's have diff related issues, those who launch that hard snap the diff, so it's a lose-lose situation.



When i drove my ex's father's s2k once i learned the prime spot for launching i'd say i was in low 14's, i don't even think the s2k is a 13 second car, hell the integra type r's are only 14.6 second cars i doubt the sk's are so much faster then honda/acura's former "top of the line" car. Not saying you're wrong mind you a si dont read about s2k's that much so some mags may rate it as a 13 second car, just from personal experience i'd say it's a low 14 second car in stock form, could be a 13 second car if you really know the car i guess.



kevin.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 11:48 AM
  #12  
j9fd3s's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 22,465
From: California
Default

thats easy, do you believe everything you read?



mike
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 11:59 AM
  #13  
relisys190's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 582
From: Tampa
Default

I own a FC N/A I have yet to take it to the track with my new engine. I have no internal work done to the engine. I do have Basic Intake Exhaust. But no Headers. The FD is definatly my next favorite Car on my list. And sure the S2K is on there as well. My question is



What does a stock FC n/A Run in the quarter.... How about the 1/8th Mile

What does a Stock FD TT run in the Quarter... How bout the 1/8th?



With the basic mods listed how far off am i from stock. My motor runs very strong to redline.

And what would the best launch Rpm be for me? I am not an avid racer, but i am curious as to what my car can do. Think it's possible to hit Mid 14's? in a non turbo 2nd gen?



thanks guys.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 12:11 PM
  #14  
Apollorx7's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 348
From: south jersey
Default

The best launch for my S4 na was to hold the rpms at 4k and dump the clutch. I ran a 16.2 when i was stock in August. It was about 90 somethin degrees out. You should hit low 15s at the least i think.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 01:53 PM
  #15  
ILUVMY88CABRIO's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,097
From: Lynnwood, WA
Default

There was a good little article in SCC a few months ago talking about how other mags come up with all of their times and what not. They will correct times based on weather conditions and other variables that are out of their control. I think it is all a bunch of BS. The thing I like about SCC is they post the average of their 2 best times, they keep their **** real. One thing I read that I liked was that the new viper "only" ran a 12.4, that means I only have to make up about .8 sec before I can start ******* with them.

Oh, and I think a stock C5 only runs around a 13.0 - 13.2.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 02:00 PM
  #16  
j9fd3s's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 22,465
From: California
Default

Originally Posted by ILUVMY88CABRIO' date='Apr 15 2003, 10:53 AM
There was a good little article in SCC a few months ago talking about how other mags come up with all of their times and what not. They will correct times based on weather conditions and other variables that are out of their control. I think it is all a bunch of BS. The thing I like about SCC is they post the average of their 2 best times, they keep their **** real. One thing I read that I liked was that the new viper "only" ran a 12.4, that means I only have to make up about .8 sec before I can start ******* with them.

Oh, and I think a stock C5 only runs around a 13.0 - 13.2.
yeah i get the feeling they look at the advertising revenue also, and correct accordingly



mike
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 04:32 PM
  #17  
evilT2's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 563
Default

'magazines' is fairly vauge. some get their numbers from the factory and some do the tests themselves. depends on what you read and on the specifics of your setup vs the one for the test (tires, weather, etc.)
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 09:29 PM
  #18  
1Revvin7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 10,906
From: Peoria, AZ
Default

Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Apr 15 2003, 11:48 AM
thats easy, do you believe everything you read?



mike
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 10:15 PM
  #19  
Rob x-7's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,288
From: Amityville, New York
Default

Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Apr 15 2003, 03:00 PM
yeah i get the feeling they look at the advertising revenue also, and correct accordingly
how would you explain the comparison tests, or the shoot-outs with

different cars?



So you guys all think they are lying? There only business is to report on cars, but they lie? They must all call each other up and collaborate on thier lies putting aside the fact they are in competition with each other to sell more magazines just to fool the car magazine reading public





anyone catch the Turbo Magazines article on how dynos "lie"?

The "lie" was the difference between different brands on dynos.

Since when is being different lying?
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 10:19 PM
  #20  
j9fd3s's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 22,465
From: California
Default

Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Apr 15 2003, 07:15 PM
[quote name='j9fd3s' date='Apr 15 2003, 03:00 PM']

yeah i get the feeling they look at the advertising revenue also, and correct accordingly
how would you explain the comparison tests, or the shoot-outs with

different cars?



So you guys all think they are lying? There only business is to report on cars, but they lie? They must all call each other up and collaborate on thier lies putting aside the fact they are in competition with each other to sell more magazines just to fool the car magazine reading public





anyone catch the Turbo Magazines article on how dynos "lie"?

The "lie" was the difference between different brands on dynos.

Since when is being different lying? [/quote]

the're all liars! i dont mean it like they are in on some crazy consipiracy, its just every car it the best ever kind of mentality.



mike

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:23 PM.