Grocery Workers Strike
06-02-2004, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Jun 2 2004, 07:09 AM
Below an income of $50,000 our taxes are lower than yours.
Our government has been working hard to make us into a third world country for a long time now. Higher education standard and lower absenteeism among workers, but they only provide incentives for companies to bring manufacturing assembly line jobs here, no technical work allowed.
Now with the high levels of automation it really doesn't matter if manufacturing is done here, Mexico or Alabama, the education level of the assembly line worker has no influence on the finished product.
It comes down to which local government offers the most tax breaks for building the factory. This is why companies like BMW and Mercedes have factories in Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas and Alabama. Cheap labour and no property taxes for incentives.
Our government has been working hard to make us into a third world country for a long time now. Higher education standard and lower absenteeism among workers, but they only provide incentives for companies to bring manufacturing assembly line jobs here, no technical work allowed.
Now with the high levels of automation it really doesn't matter if manufacturing is done here, Mexico or Alabama, the education level of the assembly line worker has no influence on the finished product.
It comes down to which local government offers the most tax breaks for building the factory. This is why companies like BMW and Mercedes have factories in Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas and Alabama. Cheap labour and no property taxes for incentives.
And if you were to take into account the exchange rate on a $50K canadian salary, you'd be making McDonald's manager wages to escape the high tax rate, putting you in the "low income" category here in the US, once in that category the EFFECTIVE tax rate is surprisingly low, not to mention the HUD housing benefits and of course even here in the US you get free mediocre healthcare when you fall into that bracket... ahh, tell me why business's should be flocking to Canada again? Cause they have to pay employees $100K to get home with $50K and be able to afford a reliable car to get to work?
Do you know the effective tax rate on Canadian corporations? That would be a far better argument as to why businesses often consider it too costly to set up shop in Canada.... or do not consider it too costly. When we're talking about shipping off jobs, arguing the workers effective tax rate is futile.
Effective includes all taxes and discounts, ie, say a tax to pay for health insurance, state/province tax, etc.... are you factoring ALL of those in to your Canadian poverty level pays less taxes in canada then in the US?
06-02-2004, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Jun 2 2004, 07:09 AM
Below an income of $50,000 our taxes are lower than yours.
Set your goals low, move to canada and be poor, we'll tax you less.
i honestly don't know who pays the mojority of taxes in Canada, but from your statement I would venture a guess and say it's similar to the US... the middle class pays the taxes, poverty level gets some breaks, small business get screwed and big business either gets the breaks or hits the road.
06-02-2004, 09:30 AM
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Now don't get me wrong I love Canada, they lead the world in being just North of the US, allowing terrorists on to North American soil and don't forget their best export, high quality THC.
btw, I'm just being sarcastic there, with the exception of the French part I love Canada.
btw, I'm just being sarcastic there, with the exception of the French part I love Canada.
06-02-2004, 09:37 AM
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Well with a little research, as far as businesses go, it would appear that the US and Canada are in the same ballpark for taxes, US comes in at something 27.2% effective tax rate and the Canadian effective business tax rate is 28.4% so that pretty much shoots my theory out of the ground.
Exportation costs possibly?
Exportation costs possibly?
06-02-2004, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jun 2 2004, 07:17 AM
one other usless employment fact; walmart is the second largest employer in the country, behind the us govt. they are non union
06-02-2004, 09:45 AM
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I've got mixed feelings on unions...we have one at work but you don't have to join. however they will still help you with work problems..You must be a member to use there dental plan, but other than that they will still help you out if you are being mistreated. Now unions also do harm...we had a garbage strike here last month..garbage collecters make around 19.00 or so to start around here (no state income tax) and only go up...they wanted more money and less overtime...hell the people who are going to suffer are us in the cost of trash pick up and if you rent a can from the company (I don't but they tried to stick me with a rental fee)
At my job I don't get over time...I'd love over time I'd be at work 12 hours a day...we get a shitty thing called comp time...1 hour comp for 1 hour over...BS!!!!
At my job I don't get over time...I'd love over time I'd be at work 12 hours a day...we get a shitty thing called comp time...1 hour comp for 1 hour over...BS!!!!