the best thermogenic (fat burner) mix is still 200mg of caffiene, 20mg of ephedrine, and 20mg of asperin taken every 4 hours.



the govt banned ephedra which were used on most dietary supplements, but Ephedrine HCL is still available in the market. all the diet pills nowadays are weaker because there is no ephedra or ephedrine, everyone is scared of it now. but oh wells, i just gave you the ingredients to the cocktail. just remember you have to drink a lot of fluids and pay attention to your heartrate and blood pressure. dont take this meds if you're taking mao inhibitors (if you're taking mood enhancing medications) , if you have heart problems, 4 hours before you go to bed, or if you have thyroid problems..... and i think thats it. lol



No2 is not really a thermogenic that will help sinful7 cuz it helps retain water in your muscles, so in essence, you'd be gaining more weight than losing it.

[quote name='PhoenixDownVII' date='Jun 29 2005, 01:09 AM']Oh, perhaps you missed my point (as most do, I guess my english/writing sucks that bad...)



I never doubt that idea, but the stereotypical christian mentality is usually driven by the Southern Baptist "Your going to hell!" ideal, hardly a good example of what Christ's example was as a true man of God.



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But we are going to hell.



Mark

[quote name='FikseRxSeven' date='Jun 28 2005, 08:10 PM']the best thermogenic (fat burner) mix is still 200mg of caffiene, 20mg of ephedrine, and 20mg of asperin taken every 4 hours.



the govt banned ephedra which were used on most dietary supplements, but Ephedrine HCL is still available in the market. all the diet pills nowadays are weaker because there is no ephedra or ephedrine, everyone is scared of it now. but oh wells, i just gave you the ingredients to the cocktail. just remember you have to drink a lot of fluids and pay attention to your heartrate and blood pressure. dont take this meds if you're taking mao inhibitors (if you're taking mood enhancing medications) , if you have heart problems, 4 hours before you go to bed, or if you have thyroid problems..... and i think thats it. lol



No2 is not really a thermogenic that will help sinful7 cuz it helps retain water in your muscles, so in essence, you'd be gaining more weight than losing it.


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NO2 has nothing to do with weight loss at all. It just makes your more vascular which makes you more pimp!!!

[quote name='inanimate_object' date='Jun 28 2005, 07:11 PM']But we are going to hell.



Mark


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Thats what I say so it doesn't matter if you live your life according to the Bible, you are still gonna burn. Just don't forget the sunblock.





Back on topic. I took Chromaslim a couple years ago I lost a good amount of weight and I got toned up alot too. It may have been the working out everyday though. Just remember to eat in the morning you get really fucked up if you don't.



I am thinking about taking some Xenadrine EFX just to try and cut some weight. Then again if i cut out the Lager i would waste away.

[quote name='phinsup' date='Jun 28 2005, 05:11 PM']Not to mention all those evil gay people that get aids, the medicine just helps them live in sin longer.




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Now thats some good **** https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

do it the old fashioned way, take up heroin or methamphetimines

[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jun 28 2005, 09:48 PM']do it the old fashioned way, take up heroin or methamphetimines


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I have been thinking of a good coke habit.

or CRACK

[quote name='Sinful7' date='Jun 28 2005, 11:24 AM'] and endurance-rated supplements (so I can run/bike farther and harder for longer). Basically, I'm looking for the best alternative to old ephedra based products.


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Hence why i said N02 https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...closedeyes.gif

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However, if you can stand here and tell me you can pop pills to cure almost anything and everything then I shouldn't even try reasoning with you https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png


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You don't have the ability to "reason" with anyone.



Definition of reason:

The capacity for logical, rational, and analytic thought; intelligence.



As usualy you quoted one line of my post and responded to that with your usual witty repartee that has nothing to do with my post. I didn't describe anything, I merely responded to the fact that you said this:





let's analize that well i think lazy americans is pretty obvious. Next we take pills that keep us from getting pregnant. This is not the comment of a southern baptist, but the comment of the typical Catholic (that's one of the bigger religions...) someone who usually makes this comment will have 5 or 6 kids and gets pissed that you aren't overpopulating the world and helping to crowd the shallow end of the gene pool.



You made generalizations about americans and people who take medications and that was ok. I made generalizations about devout religious people and that was not ok......... Typical.