Ok, so who's used a 7-keto or DHEA based diet pill, and did it work?

Meh, you guys suck, I'm gonna guinea pig this ****.

buy me a bottle ship it to me and we got ourselves a deal

I'm gonna try to snag some Lean System 7 tonight.. Contains several extracts, including 7-Keto. We'll see how it goes. It's only ~$25 for 90 pills, which is 23 days worth.

Want to lose weight, WORK IT OFF.



Damn lazy americans! You got pills to keep you from getting pregnant, pills to make your penis better, pills to bulk up, pills to lose weight...they all lead to cancer and diarhea!



Ahem...well..honestly..from what I've read and heard from those that have experimented...there's nothing like Exercising and Eating right. Most of these quick, easy, answers have worse-off side effects, health wise.



Such is life, too :P

Meh, you're a tard.

I've been exercising 3-6 times per week, 30-70 mins each, sometimes more.. I've plateaued around 206 lbs, I want to break my plateau, that's all. My eating habits are almost on target, my exercise routine is robust and sufficient.. I'm looking for a little help without uncomfortably starving myself, which will ultimately lead to binge eating.



The things I'm looking for are natural metabolic enhancers (even just a tiny bit) and endurance-rated supplements (so I can run/bike farther and harder for longer). Basically, I'm looking for the best alternative to old ephedra based products.

[quote name='Sinful7' date='Jun 28 2005, 03:24 PM']Meh, you're a tard.

I've been exercising 3-6 times per week, 30-70 mins each, sometimes more.. I've plateaued around 206 lbs, I want to break my plateau, that's all. My eating habits are almost on target, my exercise routine is robust and sufficient.. I'm looking for a little help without uncomfortably starving myself, which will ultimately lead to binge eating.



The things I'm looking for are natural metabolic enhancers (even just a tiny bit) and endurance-rated supplements (so I can run/bike farther and harder for longer). Basically, I'm looking for the best alternative to old ephedra based products.


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LOL, I know this will be totally hypocritical to what I just said, but, sometimes our bodies have certain conditions (people have different rates of metabolism, for example) that even the simple task of dieting and exercise can't outdo, to a certain point, without going overboard.



You're retarDEAD.

A real Estate agent is one to talk about "lazy americans"

[quote name='PhoenixDownVII' date='Jun 28 2005, 12:48 PM']LOL, I know this will be totally hypocritical to what I just said, but, sometimes our bodies have certain conditions (people have different rates of metabolism, for example) that even the simple task of dieting and exercise can't outdo, to a certain point, without going overboard.



You're retarDEAD.


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Well, I be going overboard then. Thanks for adding absolutely nothing worthwhile to this thread.

I told you No2 and Hyrdroxycut.

[quote name='banzaitoyota' date='Jun 28 2005, 04:08 PM']A real Estate agent is one to talk about "lazy americans"


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AHAHAHHA If you only knew my schedule...Dad.

[quote name='Sinful7' date='Jun 28 2005, 04:12 PM']Well, I be going overboard then. Thanks for adding absolutely nothing worthwhile to this thread.


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Hey, just following in your footsteps...

Just pray and god will make you a skinny fucker.



Definetely modern medicine is the devil, keeping people from over populating the earth and keeping the unwanted children from their nightly drunken beating. Not to mention all those evil gay people that get aids, the medicine just helps them live in sin longer.



We should all just accept our fate, lay off the drugs and live a short and potentially painful existance because it's god's will!



I am with ya brother!



























end sarcasm

[quote name='phinsup' date='Jun 28 2005, 05:11 PM']Just pray and god will make you a skinny fucker.



Definetely modern medicine is the devil, keeping people from over populating the earth and keeping the unwanted children from their nightly drunken beating. Not to mention all those evil gay people that get aids, the medicine just helps them live in sin longer.



We should all just accept our fate, lay off the drugs and live a short and potentially painful existance because it's god's will!



I am with ya brother!

end sarcasm


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wow.... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683683.gif

[quote name='sweet7' date='Jun 28 2005, 04:13 PM']I told you No2 and Hyrdroxycut.


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n02 is the bomb...

[quote name='phinsup' date='Jun 28 2005, 05:11 PM']Just pray and god will make you a skinny fucker.

I am with ya brother!

end sarcasm


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Hahah if you think I am an advocate of the far radical "Southern Baptist" *Christian* ideal, or obvious stereotype you just outlined you are mistaken.



However, if you can stand here and tell me you can pop pills to cure almost anything and everything then I shouldn't even try reasoning with you https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

20 points for a radical Christian.

[quote name='1revnrex' date='Jun 28 2005, 07:43 PM']20 points for a radical Christian.


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1UP!

[quote name='PhoenixDownVII' date='Jun 29 2005, 12:41 AM']Hahah if you think I am an advocate of the far radical "Southern Baptist" *Christian* ideal, or obvious stereotype you just outlined you are mistaken.



However, if you can stand here and tell me you can pop pills to cure almost anything and everything then I shouldn't even try reasoning with you https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png


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What's so radical? It says right there in the bible that if you have a mustard seed's worth of faith then you can move mountains.



Mark

[quote name='inanimate_object' date='Jun 28 2005, 07:55 PM']What's so radical? It says right there in the bible that if you have a mustard seed's worth of faith then you can move mountains.



Mark


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Oh, perhaps you missed my point (as most do, I guess my english/writing sucks that bad...)



I never doubt that idea, but the stereotypical christian mentality is usually driven by the Southern Baptist "Your going to hell!" ideal, hardly a good example of what Christ's example was as a true man of God.



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

the best thermogenic (fat burner) mix is still 200mg of caffiene, 20mg of ephedrine, and 20mg of asperin taken every 4 hours.



the govt banned ephedra which were used on most dietary supplements, but Ephedrine HCL is still available in the market. all the diet pills nowadays are weaker because there is no ephedra or ephedrine, everyone is scared of it now. but oh wells, i just gave you the ingredients to the cocktail. just remember you have to drink a lot of fluids and pay attention to your heartrate and blood pressure. dont take this meds if you're taking mao inhibitors (if you're taking mood enhancing medications) , if you have heart problems, 4 hours before you go to bed, or if you have thyroid problems..... and i think thats it. lol



No2 is not really a thermogenic that will help sinful7 cuz it helps retain water in your muscles, so in essence, you'd be gaining more weight than losing it.

[quote name='PhoenixDownVII' date='Jun 29 2005, 01:09 AM']Oh, perhaps you missed my point (as most do, I guess my english/writing sucks that bad...)



I never doubt that idea, but the stereotypical christian mentality is usually driven by the Southern Baptist "Your going to hell!" ideal, hardly a good example of what Christ's example was as a true man of God.



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif


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But we are going to hell.



Mark

[quote name='FikseRxSeven' date='Jun 28 2005, 08:10 PM']the best thermogenic (fat burner) mix is still 200mg of caffiene, 20mg of ephedrine, and 20mg of asperin taken every 4 hours.



the govt banned ephedra which were used on most dietary supplements, but Ephedrine HCL is still available in the market. all the diet pills nowadays are weaker because there is no ephedra or ephedrine, everyone is scared of it now. but oh wells, i just gave you the ingredients to the cocktail. just remember you have to drink a lot of fluids and pay attention to your heartrate and blood pressure. dont take this meds if you're taking mao inhibitors (if you're taking mood enhancing medications) , if you have heart problems, 4 hours before you go to bed, or if you have thyroid problems..... and i think thats it. lol



No2 is not really a thermogenic that will help sinful7 cuz it helps retain water in your muscles, so in essence, you'd be gaining more weight than losing it.


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NO2 has nothing to do with weight loss at all. It just makes your more vascular which makes you more pimp!!!

[quote name='inanimate_object' date='Jun 28 2005, 07:11 PM']But we are going to hell.



Mark


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Thats what I say so it doesn't matter if you live your life according to the Bible, you are still gonna burn. Just don't forget the sunblock.





Back on topic. I took Chromaslim a couple years ago I lost a good amount of weight and I got toned up alot too. It may have been the working out everyday though. Just remember to eat in the morning you get really fucked up if you don't.



I am thinking about taking some Xenadrine EFX just to try and cut some weight. Then again if i cut out the Lager i would waste away.

[quote name='phinsup' date='Jun 28 2005, 05:11 PM']Not to mention all those evil gay people that get aids, the medicine just helps them live in sin longer.




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Now thats some good **** https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

do it the old fashioned way, take up heroin or methamphetimines

[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jun 28 2005, 09:48 PM']do it the old fashioned way, take up heroin or methamphetimines


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I have been thinking of a good coke habit.

or CRACK

[quote name='Sinful7' date='Jun 28 2005, 11:24 AM'] and endurance-rated supplements (so I can run/bike farther and harder for longer). Basically, I'm looking for the best alternative to old ephedra based products.


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Hence why i said N02 https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...closedeyes.gif

[quote name='PhoenixDownVII' date='Jun 28 2005, 07:41 PM']

However, if you can stand here and tell me you can pop pills to cure almost anything and everything then I shouldn't even try reasoning with you https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png


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You don't have the ability to "reason" with anyone.



Definition of reason:

The capacity for logical, rational, and analytic thought; intelligence.



As usualy you quoted one line of my post and responded to that with your usual witty repartee that has nothing to do with my post. I didn't describe anything, I merely responded to the fact that you said this:





let's analize that well i think lazy americans is pretty obvious. Next we take pills that keep us from getting pregnant. This is not the comment of a southern baptist, but the comment of the typical Catholic (that's one of the bigger religions...) someone who usually makes this comment will have 5 or 6 kids and gets pissed that you aren't overpopulating the world and helping to crowd the shallow end of the gene pool.



You made generalizations about americans and people who take medications and that was ok. I made generalizations about devout religious people and that was not ok......... Typical.

[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jun 28 2005, 10:20 PM']or CRACK


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crack is for poor folk.

[quote name='PhoenixDownVII' date='Jun 28 2005, 08:09 PM']Oh, perhaps you missed my point (as most do, I guess my english/writing sucks that bad...)



I never doubt that idea, but the stereotypical christian mentality is usually driven by the Southern Baptist "Your going to hell!" ideal, hardly a good example of what Christ's example was as a true man of God.



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif


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Almost every religion believes in hell and most believe that those who do not follow their falvour will either go to hell or be in heaven to a lesser extent then those who don't follow their one "true" interpretation of the bible. NOT just Southern Baptists. It appears you have a bone to pick with Southern Baptists, which is typical. Most deeply religious people are intollerant of other religions, even other flavours of christianity and their followers. Trust me, since I've never met a southern baptist I'm guessing they aren't giving religion the bad name you think they are.



PS. He didn't miss your point, it's just that you didn't actually have one. Babling doesn't count as making a point, you've usually got to actually address the point that the previous speaker made to make an argumentative counter.

Am I gonna have to moderate someone? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

[quote name='phinsup' date='Jun 28 2005, 10:34 PM']

You made generalizations about americans and people who take medications and that was ok. I made generalizations about devout religious people and that was not ok......... Typical.


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No.



My generalization was a sarcastic response because I know the generalization of me as a christian would be exactly what I said....



And I never said your generalization wasn't okay, it's mostly true, unfortunately, and this is GenD so I was just playing.



Do you get it? That "lazy american" part was just sarcasm, i shoulda done the [/sarcasm] thing. My bad. Seriously, half of this stupid witty stuff is a misunderstanding of when I am just joking/teasing the same way everyone else does, but somehow it's taken too seriously...?

This is why I need to meet you and give you a big hug.

Both you two stay outta my thread! :rant:



I went to GNC and the guy wouldn't sell me anything.. Except a multi vitamin that has lotsa B in it. He told me to try that for awhile and see how it goes. It's a twice daily thing and is supposed to help increase my energy levels all day long, and help my muscles rebuild faster the natural way. He also told me I need to be eating more for breakfast and less for dinner - that my nutrition and fitness levels were on par for weight loss, but I needed to re-arrange my eating schedule to promote fat loss. Told me it has more to do with how you eat than what you eat. He explained how he could sell me this metabolizer trio, but the key thing the metabolizer came with is a 14-day meal planner that is setup to burn fat.. And the metabolizer was just a helper.

Tighten that neck up son! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Ah, I'll be getting some coleus forskohlii on the way home.. Then I should be all set!