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Old 06-22-2004, 11:14 AM
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mY TICKET WAS $119 I was doing 76 in a 60 I was going slow for that road. Most poeple are doing 85 + that would cost $169. How many cars do they need to pull over to make it cost effective.



Lets say the average ticket was 100 bucks. I had 7 other cars pulled over with me. That was $700 in about 15 minutes. Figure they pull over about 20 cars an hour and they were there for about 6 hours. (I saw them setting up at 9:00 in the morning) Thats about $12,000 not too shabby for 6 hours work and trust me that is a low estimate. I am sure most people do 80 plus on that road. I would have been if I had not been eating.
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Shoulda demanded to see the radar gun! LOL



they should bring in thousands, because it would cost them many thousands to do such an elaborate setup.



Especially when one or two cruisers would slow every one down just the same.



A sign that says "This road patrolled AT ALL TIMES" and one cruiser would be enough to slow down 90% of drivers to damn close to the speed limit.
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All about revenue ehh? Lets do the math shall we...





Lets say troopers make approx. $36K a year



$36,000 / 52 weeks = $692.31 weekly salary

$692.31 / 40 hours = $17.31 hourly

8 troopers for an 8 hour shift cost $1107.84 in labor



Fleet fuel and vehicle maintenance costs...



$40 dollars in fuel per cruiser for 250 miles (V8s and lots of idle time)



.25cents per mile in maintenance (very conservative estimate)

so 250 miles would be $62.5 per cruiser



8 cruisers would be $820.00 worth of fuel and maintenace



The plane would prolly cost $400.00 or more a shift to fly when you think about aviation fuel, pilot salary, plane depreciation and maintenance.



Clerk salary to process the tickets lets say 40 man hours at $9.00 an hour... $360.00



Court personnel salaries for those who do contest the tickets... 8 hours at various pay rates...



Prosecution $192

Public defender $192

Bailiff $96

Judge $248

Stenographer $72

Clerk $72



For a grand total of... $3559.84



They would have to give everyone a ticket in order for this to work if the road is as vacant as described...
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Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Jun 22 2004, 08:49 AM
Shoulda demanded to see the radar gun! LOL



they should bring in thousands, because it would cost them many thousands to do such an elaborate setup.



Especially when one or two cruisers would slow every one down just the same.



A sign that says "This road patrolled AT ALL TIMES" and one cruiser would be enough to slow down 90% of drivers to damn close to the speed limit.
yes but if no-one sped then they would find another way to get money out of you. I swear speeding tickets/ parking tickets are just another form of tax.



Your getting some kind of fine whether you like it or not. I just think you should be able to claim it as money paid in taxes.
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Originally Posted by twstdmtl' date='Jun 22 2004, 01:08 PM
All about revenue ehh? Lets do the math shall we...





Lets say troopers make approx. $36K a year



$36,000 / 52 weeks = $692.31 weekly salary

$692.31 / 40 hours = $17.31 hourly

8 troopers for an 8 hour shift cost $1107.84 in labor



Fleet fuel and vehicle maintenance costs...



$40 dollars in fuel per cruiser for 250 miles (V8s and lots of idle time)



.25cents per mile in maintenance (very conservative estimate)

so 250 miles would be $62.5 per cruiser



8 cruisers would be $820.00 worth of fuel and maintenace



The plane would prolly cost $400.00 or more a shift to fly when you think about aviation fuel, pilot salary, plane depreciation and maintenance.



Clerk salary to process the tickets lets say 40 man hours at $9.00 an hour... $360.00



Court personnel salaries for those who do contest the tickets... 8 hours at various pay rates...



Prosecution $192

Public defender $192

Bailiff $96

Judge $248

Stenographer $72

Clerk $72



For a grand total of... $3559.84



They would have to give everyone a ticket in order for this to work if the road is as vacant as described...
I think the plane would cost more than that, but I'm just guessing...
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Originally Posted by twstdmtl' date='Jun 22 2004, 09:08 AM
All about revenue ehh? Lets do the math shall we...





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Well smarty pants much of what you describe comes from grants issued by the government (washington)so none of it comes out of the local budget.



But tickets/fines and such go directly into the local governement spending account as revenue. That's why you hear about the most profital counties and such have major interstates and speed traps in them.



Please don't be so nieve as to think that any government is hurting for money.
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I didnt know this was a local issue, bleh.
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The federal government is. deficit spending = spending money you don't have.
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Hmmm I used to write for grants with the KY State Police So I know where most of the funding for these "sting" activities come from. Even though it is extra- agency funding there are tight restrictions that have to be met. The proposal for said grant monies have to outline projected expenditures like I just did.



Mainly I was making fun of the capital expenditures in general. Regardless of who flips the bill it seems a bit absurb.



BTW try some decaf and relax dawg its just a little NP fun
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You know, I have to say that's one of the BEST things about living in Adams County, CO. That's the Thorton/Northglenn/Brighton police, and they are pretty damn cool. My buddy was doing 68 in a 45 near my house, got nailed by a stealth po, gave him an excuse about the speedo being off and was let off! Northglenn cops are especially nice. Sunday night, a bunch of racers were meeting in a grocery store parking lot meeting up, and there were several bikers with us too. The cops rolled up.. four cars with 7 officers, they harassed the bikers a bit but said NOTHING to the car guys! We all had illegal exhausts, lighting, plate violations, tag violations, drag slicks, nitrous, etc. and they knew it. They not only left after 20 minutes, but when they left they didn't just go 10 minutes down the road to hide and wait for us!

We are typically rolling 10 cars deep heading to race, and you'd think that when we pass a cop he'd get behind us and follow, but when we turn off the road they just keep going. It's almost like they have some real police work to do or something!

Anyhow, even when I do get a ticket (I know it will happen), I'll still love those guys, because they are the most reasonable PD I've ever encountered! It might help that I'm a resident, and they know my car, and my entire city is only 9 sq miles.. but still.

Oh, and sorry to hear about your misfortune Jim, I'm glad you're fighting it!!
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