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08-28-2002, 05:52 PM
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For one thing, its only a fine, no points on your license, and one of the companies that makes those cameras is being sued because they are not profitable like they said they would be, I have the article somewhere in one of my Car and Drivers actually, its COSTING that state money to have the damm things in operation.
08-28-2002, 05:56 PM
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Furthermore, you are challenging my statement because you don't want a rape tape to be thrown out of court, do realize what that would do to our judicial system if we considered the long precidence in every case over the merits of the case itself?
So we would not release a man accused of murder because it might start a trend? Unfortunately guilty people go free all the time, but if they are not guilty beyond proponderance of the eveidence then they should go free, that is the way the system was designed and is upheld.
And you want to argue tickets and their virtues, by all means let's stick to tickets, god knows I know a lot less than you, I have only had 8 or 9 tickets in my driving career and NONE of them are on my driving record... but I wouldn't know anything about fighting them..., that is what my lawyer is for
So we would not release a man accused of murder because it might start a trend? Unfortunately guilty people go free all the time, but if they are not guilty beyond proponderance of the eveidence then they should go free, that is the way the system was designed and is upheld.
And you want to argue tickets and their virtues, by all means let's stick to tickets, god knows I know a lot less than you, I have only had 8 or 9 tickets in my driving career and NONE of them are on my driving record... but I wouldn't know anything about fighting them..., that is what my lawyer is for
08-28-2002, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Aug 28 2002, 04:52 PM
For one thing, its only a fine, no points on your license, and one of the companies that makes those cameras is being sued because they are not profitable like they said they would be, I have the article somewhere in one of my Car and Drivers actually, its COSTING that state money to have the damm things in operation.
08-28-2002, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Aug 28 2002, 06:57 PM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Aug 28 2002, 04:52 PM']For one thing, its only a fine, no points on your license, and one of the companies that makes those cameras is being sued because they are not profitable like they said they would be, I have the article somewhere in one of my Car and Drivers actually, its COSTING that state money to have the damm things in operation.
Who is to say who was driving the car? Here in New York we have red light cameras, while normally running a red light will slam the **** of your license and car insurance, a camera red light ticket is merely a fine not unlike a parking ticket.
08-28-2002, 06:00 PM
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Yea that was the one part I didn't even bring up, can you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt I was driving the car... much like ThirdGen's rape example, if you can't prove it was him... the tape is useless.
08-28-2002, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Aug 28 2002, 07:00 PM
Yea that was the one part I didn't even bring up, can you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt I was driving the car... much like ThirdGen's rape example, if you can't prove it was him... the tape is useless.
08-28-2002, 06:15 PM
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to tell you the truth i trust machines 10000% more than I trust people... okay let's say you want it tested... how about this policy: at a regular interval sayyyy 1 month they go and check the camera to make sure it's functioning properly, if your ticket fell in the time that it was found to be out of adjustment then your ticket gets thrown out, problem solved. In california with redlight tickets the person's face has to be clear in the picture.