thatpoorguy

Yaeh, all the cc info was encrypted, profile info like your address was not. Not a big issue for me cause I moved and I never list my cell number

phinsup

That's interesting, why is sony offering to assist people with free credit reports if there was no chance any vital information was obtained?



Sony has not been very upfront about the whole thing IMO

phinsup

Maybe you could give me the rundown on how access was obtained? I honestly haven't spent much time on this whole issue.



Every server attached to the internet is "under attack". Hell this server right here banned 3 users while i was typing this message for trying to login and one for portscanning.



trust me microsoft has been a target of an absolute shitload of "groups or hackers". Amazon, Apple, you name it.



I'm not saying it can't happen to any of them, but let's face some facts, this is the largest "hack" of a network of this size.

phinsup

btw, goodluck finding my physical address. Let me know when you get it.

Baldy

I think I found it:

phinsup

LOL can't hit a moving target

thatpoorguy

A guy by the name of hotz (same guy to first jailbreak the iPhone) reverse engineered a ps3 and figured out how to use the other operating system function to be able to load your own software and access ps store to steal games and add-ons. Not only did he figure that out, but he posted it all over the web. Ps store was shut down and lawsuit was filed against hotz. Furthermore PSN issued an update that got rid of the load other os function so this sort of attack could no longer be used. A hacker group that goes by "anonymous" (same group responsible for hacking several government officials pc's in revenge for wikileaks being shut down) declared war on Sony claiming they are removing functions they paid for and are ripping off the customers. Nowhere I've seen on the box for my ps3 does it advertise the other os ability. So in their nerd rage they hacked PSN probably to upset the PSN members and turn them against Sony. It's worked to some extent as a lot of people on the ps blog threw fits and claimed to be going to Xbox as well as Sony's stock losing value. Hopefully it's going back up a bit after this press release because they're already not getting all the impulse buys that normally happen at the store, especially since 4 new games came out the first weekend after PSN was shutdown.



On a side note I forgot to mention, PSN actually shutdown itself after detecting the intrusion so they could sort it out through a third party security firm. It wasn't a crash or any other such nonsense you may hear in rumors

thatpoorguy

Also the "anonymous" group followed their typical MO and also hacked some Sony officials pc's

phinsup

Sony makes playstation, sony maintains the network, sony makes the software that runs on the hardware. They maintain and manufacture every aspect of the equation. My opinion, take it for what it's worth. Let's face it I know a little about securing networks Sony planned on securing the network mostly at the hardware level (big mistake), when the hardware was hacked they had time to file a lawsuit, but didn't go to an outside security company and say "ok our hardware has gone rogue, please do a security audit and make sure we are ok".



I'm hate microsoft, anyone who knows me will tell you that, I'm not a sony fan, but I don't have a distaste for them, but as a company they have had some significant bad moves when it comes system security. Anyone remember the rootkit that installed on your pc when you ripped a Sony CD to your PC a few years back??? In general I don't think security is a huge concern for them, nor privacy for that matter. Sometimes I think Sony has their hands in too many pots, to some degree they are a "jack of all trades, master of none". The playstation rocks, but the online just isn't sorted that well, it hasn't matured as quickly as xbox live and it's still lacking features of the largest competitor, they were way behind m$ in releasing the ps3, there was no excuse for this, they are a major corporation that had been making gaming systems for much longer then m$ they make mediocre stereo equipment, pretty decent tv's, horrible mp3 players, junk laptops (exploding batteries), crappy cell phones, etc, etc, etc... you get my point here right? I think they need to take few folks off the mp3 "walkman" team and move them to the playstation network team and get serious about this **** LOL



Anyhow, we can argue back and forth all day, the reality is I don't plan on trading my ps3 in a piece of **** xbox, the ps network was hacked, it has hurt both stock and sales (long term is anyone's guess)... at the end of the day it's another black eye for Sony who already has a pretty shitty record when it comes to security and user privacy.

thatpoorguy

Actually I agree with you for the most part. I'm happy they at least had the cc info well secured. Plus Sony's using the security firm to hunt down and prosecute these folks.



On a side note, I did like my Sony camera I had awhile back. Survived a couple trips to the desert. For the home stereo I had to do it right with a Phillips lol. My bigscreen is an old samsung dlp HDTV but it's lasted me since before the divorce!