[quote name='ColinRX7' date='Sep 12 2005, 08:20 PM']You're making me want that car
[snapback]757833[/snapback] [/quote] You just wait. Im inspired to show off. |
with that oil cooler there do you plan on using different lights or does it just look like the stockers wont fit from the pics?
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[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Sep 12 2005, 10:43 PM']with that oil cooler there do you plan on using different lights or does it just look like the stockers wont fit from the pics?
[snapback]757915[/snapback] [/quote] I havent test fittes the lights(not mounted that oil cooler yet either), but I really wouldnt mind an excuse to scrap the stock flip up lights and go with something flush mounted. |
I like the way you have that rad. set up, but can I ask why you chose to do that? I have seen kits that make the rad. sit straight up and down for better cooling, but I don't know what diff. it makes. What are you doing for an intercooler?
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Im leaning towards an air to water IC, with a heat exchanger in the pass side brake duct.
As for why I positioned the radiator and oil cooler(s) like I did, its all about the cooling. The majority of cooling is done by the first 2" in the airs path. As the air draws heat from the radiator, etc, it heats up. When you have more than one heat exchanger(radiator, oil cooler, a/c condenser, etc) stacked up, each one is heating the air before it even gets to the next one. That might be worthwhile when space is more important than cooling, but to me, with this engine, cooling is of the utmost importance. The stock twins put a lot of stress on the cooling system(think FD reliability), and I want a reliable car in a hot climate. I dont want to have to park my car when the air gets over 80 degrees, I dont want to have to worry in traffic, etc. I want a real car. One you can get in and drive, and enjoy, without worrying about whats going to break next. I will be doing a lot of ducting work to ensure proper and adequate airflow, and will have a vented hood as well. |
Well, makes a lot of sense, thanks! Can;t wait to see the finished project. BTW, I made a experimental water/air I/C out of a stock TII I/C a couple of years ago just to see if I could and what it would do and it worked really well. I wouldn't suggest that small of a core for your app, but it looks like you have some good fab skills, maybe you could make your own?
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[quote name='RE87FC' date='Sep 12 2005, 11:51 PM']Well, makes a lot of sense, thanks! Can;t wait to see the finished project. BTW, I made a experimental water/air I/C out of a stock TII I/C a couple of years ago just to see if I could and what it would do and it worked really well. I wouldn't suggest that small of a core for your app, but it looks like you have some good fab skills, maybe you could make your own?
[snapback]757959[/snapback] [/quote] Ive considered using 2 fc cores, but it would take up more room than I want. Im leaning more towards a commercial core for space reasons. On a side note, Im still pushing a friend of mine to convert his stock IC (TII) into an air to water IC in the stock location. The stock fc IC flows well, its just hampered by piss poor ducting below the core, as well as the simply fact its sitting above a hot engine. |
I love the placement of the coolers and such, seems like the job would be easier, flow wise, if the rows matched the angle of the installed rad and cooler.
Aftermarket snout i'm assuming? |
[quote name='89 Rag' date='Sep 13 2005, 01:19 AM']I love the placement of the coolers and such, seems like the job would be easier, flow wise, if the rows matched the angle of the installed rad and cooler.
Aftermarket snout i'm assuming? [snapback]758003[/snapback] [/quote] Ill definately situate the ducting to optomize flow with the angle of the coolers. As for the front bumper, not just aftermarket, but... |
[quote name='mazdaspeed7' date='Sep 12 2005, 10:35 PM']Ill definately situate the ducting to optomize flow with the angle of the coolers.
As for the front bumper, not just aftermarket, but... [snapback]758008[/snapback] [/quote] lol, you really never have struck me as the kind of person that takes the easy way out, I was just thinking out loud. I know it's gonna be trick when it's done. Now the suspense is killing me on the snout! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png |
[quote name='89 Rag' date='Sep 13 2005, 01:41 AM']lol, you really never have struck me as the kind of person that takes the easy way out, I was just thinking out loud. I know it's gonna be trick when it's done.
Now the suspense is killing me on the snout! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png [snapback]758013[/snapback] [/quote] Lets just see if I can finish this one... |
[quote name='89 Rag' date='Sep 13 2005, 12:19 AM']I love the placement of the coolers and such, seems like the job would be easier, flow wise, if the rows matched the angle of the installed rad and cooler.
Aftermarket snout i'm assuming? [snapback]758003[/snapback] [/quote] Only problem is if you ever got in a small fender bender. You can kiss that rad/ oil cooler good bye. Where as the stock setup it will live. |
If that's the worst thing about the new radiator/oil cooler setup, consider yourself lucky, Adam.
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[quote name='Cheers!' date='Sep 13 2005, 11:24 AM']Only problem is if you ever got in a small fender bender. You can kiss that rad/ oil cooler good bye. Where as the stock setup it will live.
[snapback]758113[/snapback] [/quote] [quote name='ColinRX7' date='Sep 16 2005, 11:18 AM']If that's the worst thing about the new radiator/oil cooler setup, consider yourself lucky, Adam. [snapback]759465[/snapback] [/quote] Im reworking the bumper support in the front for some extra crash protection. And theres still 7" between the bumper skin and the most forward part of the radiator. Another plus is the ground clearance Im going to gain in the front. The lowest point is still a couple of inches above the bottom of the subframe. |
Should I keep this thread pertaining to just the REW swap, or the build of the rest of the car as well?
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Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7' post='762443' date='Sep 24 2005, 05:01 PM
Should I keep this thread pertaining to just the REW swap, or the build of the rest of the car as well? that rad setup is, for the sake of corniness, rad. interested in these TB elbows and FD UIM Covers. kevin. |
Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7' post='762443' date='Sep 24 2005, 02:01 PM
Should I keep this thread pertaining to just the REW swap, or the build of the rest of the car as well? might as well do the whole car |
Since the factory cross braces were blocking so much of the airflow with how i have the radiator sitting, I decided they need to go. So I scrapped the stock radiator support as well and welded in a new radiator support that ties into all 4 frame rails in the front of the car. This bumper support should protect the radiator should I get in a minor front end colission, as well as make the front of the car much stronger overall. There is no flex in the front of the car whatsoever now. Removing the factory bracing and such also frees me from having to use the stock mounting points for the front edge of the fenders and the bumper, and gives me more freedom in redesigning the front end.
Heres where Im at now, still undecided on whether the headlight mounts will be staying or going. I need to do some drawing and take some measurements first. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/gal...155_173846.jpg https://www.nopistons.com/forums/gal...155_565913.jpg https://www.nopistons.com/forums/gal...155_163480.jpg |
you know its dumb, but thats kinda what they did with the fd... makes packaging different cooling systems sooo much easier
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='762530' date='Sep 24 2005, 10:54 PM
you know its dumb, but thats kinda what they did with the fd... makes packaging different cooling systems sooo much easier what did they do to the fd? change the front bracing? kevin. |
Originally Posted by teknics' post='762871' date='Sep 26 2005, 04:45 AM
what did they do to the fd? change the front bracing? kevin. Yeah, they got rid of the bracing where the fc has it and put it all at the very front of the car. |
that thing is trick. that gives me alot of neat ideas. looks really good, and you are selling the GTU when you are done with this swap?
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Ok mazdaspeed7, we need an update on how things are going .
Everything is looking great |
by the way where is the link to your engine mounts ???
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Originally Posted by VaGambler' post='767353' date='Oct 7 2005, 10:05 PM
by the way where is the link to your engine mounts ??? Heres the link for the mounts Ive been making some progress with it, but not very much visible at the moment. Im trying to finalize the design of the body work so I can move forward and actually start it. Heres the current state though. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/gal...155_129021.jpg https://www.nopistons.com/forums/gal..._155_58729.jpg |
have you figured out how your going to mount the bumper?
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='767525' date='Oct 8 2005, 05:38 PM
have you figured out how your going to mount the bumper? One of the design issues I need to work through before I progress is going to be the division between the fenders, hood, and bumper, seeing as all will be custom or at least highly modified stock(fenders). The ducting needs to be worked out with the design as well so the vents function properly and flow with the rest of the design. short answer: everything is going to have new mounts anyways, but those will be worked out after the bodywork is fiberglassed. |
Cool.
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this is definitely a swap that i will be considering for my fc, keep all the updates coming!
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Going kinda slowly lately, hopefully I can put a little more time into it in the not so distant future.
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just wondering and sorry in advance if this is a stupid question. what tranny are you using? and also what rear end? i ask because as i have stated above i am starting to think very seriously about this swap and since my car is na right now and needs a new tranny anyways i am going to be getting a new tranny and i also need an lsd so i will most likely get a turbo rear end. does that sound about right?
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The transmission, driveshaft, rear end, halfshafts and such are all S5 TII. I installed those a while ago. The TII clutch kit will bolt up to an FD flywheel, or you can use an aftermarket flywheel with either a s5 or S6 rear counterweight, as they are the same. The engine bolts right up to the TII trans(or any rotary transmission for that matter).
If you are going to do the transmission swap, you will need the transmission, starter, clutch slave cylinder, driveshaft, diff, and halfshafts from a TII at a minimum, unless you get a custom driveshaft made to keep the n/a differential, which I do not recommend with any turbo swap. |
ok bud its 1-29-06 any news about your swap ????? . im building my FD today and making plans to install it in my FC
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Havent had time to work on the car. Too many paying projects and other responsibilities.
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I added the swap mounts to my site finally. Click the picture in my sig to view it. More stuff coming in the future too.
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i thought about dropping a fd engine into my fc, and it's tranny... though never got around to it... and im glad somebody is actually putting the fd twin-sequential turbo engine into a fc. it's going to be a wickedly awesome ride when you're done. make sure you finish it, and keep us updated for us who would like to do the same thing. good luck.
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You bastard, how dare you hold out on us! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png
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Originally Posted by 89 Rag' post='810508' date='Mar 28 2006, 12:13 AM
You know you love how I tease you so |
Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7' post='810655' date='Mar 28 2006, 10:41 AM
You know you love how I tease you so ok bud , I have the ported 3mm Fd motor ready for install, but Im finishing up the T II install Im doing now , The owner is using the 3rd gen intake and Tb , we are just looking for a few other plugs to finish up the new ECU and harness . More updates to come . Thanks for all the help mazdaspeed . Va |
Originally Posted by VaGambler' post='815581' date='Apr 23 2006, 11:08 AM
ok bud , I have the ported 3mm Fd motor ready for install, but Im finishing up the T II install Im doing now , The owner is using the 3rd gen intake and Tb , we are just looking for a few other plugs to finish up the new ECU and harness . More updates to come . Thanks for all the help mazdaspeed . Va Cant wait to see how it turns out. Mine, sadly is on the back shelf, probably permanently. |
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