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Old May 9, 2005 | 06:38 AM
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Well as stated, there was nothing wrong with the E6X on the initial install as it turns out.



Me and Pengaru started screwing with this car around 3:30pm yesterday. We would get close but when it finally would fire up (by pull start) it would act as if it was firing off only 1 rotor. WTF? Checked timing over and over and over again. Not that. Check that it was getting fuel, yup, plugs are wet. Ok... lets lean out the map... nope. Richen it up? nope. Ok this is getting frustrating. Midnite Hits....



Ok lets test the injectors, wait a second.. why are we seeing 12v on both leads to INJ1 and INJ2...? Shouldnt 1 be ZERO since its the ground? INJ3 and INJ4 dont have power to both leads, only 1 like supposed to be? Problem has to be in the E6X harness somewhere so out it comes! Unloom it all, lay it out, check continuity before relays, after relays, before fuses, after fuses.. wait.. A CLUE! Theres some fuel in the injector plugs! Blow that out... voila, no voltage! Thats it right? Wrong.



Put it all back in (creeping towards 2am at this point) and begin the pull start attempts. Same ****. Nada. Re-check timing.... nope, on the ball still. Well lets check continuity on the Injectors... OK. Primary 1 (850cc) 2.4, Primary 2 (850cc) 2.4, Secondary 1 (1680cc) 20.1, Secondary 2 (1680cc) 4.3.... ok thats odd, all are supposed to be low? Ok lets see if its the Injector drivers, swap the secondary leads to the primary... Nope. Ok put them back. Lets see how it runs if we disconnect the 12v power to Rotor 1. Runs EXACTLY the same as it has been. Well ****, lets do Primary 2 for grins. Wont run at all. Sure as **** its 1 rotoring but why?



At this point its 4am... we are both dead tired and extremely lazy. Ok lets do this, it doesnt really matter where the engine gets its fuel right? ok so the secondaries are a little large to run an engine but lets just put the INJ1 and INJ2 on the secondaries.... BOOOM, fires right over. no pull start, BARELY touch the throttle. 3k rpm idle. Ok a little high, lean out the map, 2k. Good enough since its a fresh rebuild anyway. Brap brap brap burrrrr burr brap burrr burr brap brap burr brap....



So as it stands she has 20 miles on her, altho I can only give it maybe 1-2% throttle without it bogging down and the 6 puck unsprung clutch isnt as bad as i thought it would be. But all in all it still accelerates faster with the very very very limited drivability and throttle i can give it (almost constantly in boost, this is gonna suck when this engine gets broken in).. its still faster than my straight 6 F150.



Hows that for some bullshit? now ill have to ream the guy out who sold me these 850cc injectors.
Old May 9, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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yeah, that sucks.
Old May 9, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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wow, shitty.
Old May 9, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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it happens with used parts. send em out to get cleaned! atleast you figured it out. turbovr6 had a similar problem he was sold defective 1680cc secondaries man that took a while to figure out.....
Old May 9, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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glad you finally figured it out Bill... Congrats
Old May 9, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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[quote name='vosko' date='May 9 2005, 06:25 AM']it happens with used parts. send em out to get cleaned! atleast you figured it out. turbovr6 had a similar problem he was sold defective 1680cc secondaries man that took a while to figure out.....

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they werent used
Old May 10, 2005 | 12:26 AM
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[quote name='billzrx7' date='May 9 2005, 03:54 PM']they werent used

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wtf you got shitty luck. well like i said we went through the same thing with new parts even !!!!!
Old May 14, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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[quote name='vosko' date='May 9 2005, 09:26 PM']wtf you got shitty luck. well like i said we went through the same thing with new parts even !!!!!

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new problem vosko... ok its all firing gas now.. almost starts but wont, even if i atf it. timing is dead on during cranking, ive got spark, ive got gas, sounds like itll run good if it would start.. any idea what the injector times should be on 850cc primaries with a half bridge rebuitl engine with 180 miles on it? specs:



bdc half bridge

tb mod

850 primaries

1680 secondaries

walbro 255lph

40psi static
Old May 14, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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stock timing map it will still start. have you done a compression check?



i bet your spark plugs are wet now too. change them and unflood it
Old May 15, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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[quote name='vosko' date='May 14 2005, 06:02 PM']stock timing map it will still start. have you done a compression check?



i bet your spark plugs are wet now too. change them and unflood it

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whats th stock timing map settings?
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