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E6k
Pro -well established in the US Universal Harness You can swap into any car a small but usable database of Maps Cons:Support was not at all as it was hyped up when I bought mine You can never reach haltech-real bad customer service support awfull ignition problems Instable Tach etc outdated DOS software Cocky Mother efer's who think they know everything and get upset when you ask questions (BDC) I have sold the POS E6K and have bought a MT LT series EMS Pros-Best support! 2 miles from my house I have a MT tuner Made specific for "my car" easy to tune and understand easy to install uses stock sensors (programmed with the correct resistance for the oem sensors) Windows Based Software on a Laptop or swicth to a HandHeld controller a DASH Unit that displays info+plus programmble warning lights and shiftlight awesome! ignition control The top rotary racers in the world use MT's It is a "proven" product Is growing in the US/PR Big Time! Cons- You must send the unit back to get it reprogramed if you want to switch to a diffrent car that has diffrent sensors (you can use the Delco sensors like the Haltech and then there would be no need for reprogarming) |
Originally Posted by rx794' date='Feb 9 2003, 10:01 PM
ECU - PowerFC w/Datalogit
PROS- Ignition timing accuracy, plug and play, base starting map, controls OMP pump, can go back to stock ECU easily, don't have to rewire car, excellent drivability on extreme vacuum situations, don't have to buy any extra sensors, has built in anti-lag built into clutch pedal, datalogging-can datalog whatever sensors you choose within the ECU including add on superwideband oxygen sensors, also shows what switches are on or off(brake switch, clutch switch, neutral switch, etc.), constant upgrading of software for the Datalogit through the internet(addition of new features keep coming). CONS- Cannot control PRIMARY injectors that are any bigger than 1000cc's due to the minimum ms limit, support isn't as good as some other ECUs yet, unless you've bought the unit and are on the Datalogit group, not just anyone can go on the website ask questions, and get software upgrades unless you're part of the group(which means buying the Datalogit firsthand). That's all I can think of for now. If I remember anything else I'll post it, I know that the timing accuracy on the PFC is NO JOKE!!!!, and that's a big factor when it comes to the rotary motor, this ECU can do some "tricks" to make more power by using that to it's advantage, without having to worry about timing safety limits. |
PFC-
Pros- Install is simple Very flexible unit Commander is easy to use and adjust Datalogit is harder to use, but you can fine tune better Cons-Don't have any...yet |
Originally Posted by 3rdGen7' date='Feb 26 2003, 07:11 PM
[quote name='rx794' date='Feb 9 2003, 10:01 PM'] ECU - PowerFC w/Datalogit
PROS- Ignition timing accuracy, plug and play, base starting map, controls OMP pump, can go back to stock ECU easily, don't have to rewire car, excellent drivability on extreme vacuum situations, don't have to buy any extra sensors, has built in anti-lag built into clutch pedal, datalogging-can datalog whatever sensors you choose within the ECU including add on superwideband oxygen sensors, also shows what switches are on or off(brake switch, clutch switch, neutral switch, etc.), constant upgrading of software for the Datalogit through the internet(addition of new features keep coming). CONS- Cannot control PRIMARY injectors that are any bigger than 1000cc's due to the minimum ms limit, support isn't as good as some other ECUs yet, unless you've bought the unit and are on the Datalogit group, not just anyone can go on the website ask questions, and get software upgrades unless you're part of the group(which means buying the Datalogit firsthand). That's all I can think of for now. If I remember anything else I'll post it, I know that the timing accuracy on the PFC is NO JOKE!!!!, and that's a big factor when it comes to the rotary motor, this ECU can do some "tricks" to make more power by using that to it's advantage, without having to worry about timing safety limits. Yes, basically that's how it sounds. |
i have no ignition problems with my E6K thanks to judge ito
my car has been running 20 degrees ignition timing. anyway a programmable ecu is only as good as the installer and tuner.... |
WOLF3D version 3.0
Pros - Biggest pro I believe is being able to run it off a handheld controller- therefore no windows incompatibility problems/communication errors (this is big for me right now b/c I am running into these probs with my friend haltech F9 https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR ). Also you get no laptop battery-dead problems. You can also tune whenever you feel like b/c there is always a handheld display in the car (The handheld takes up lots less room than a laptop) CONS- Datalog is not too great. You don't get a pretty graph readout but you do get some datalogging. Only one auxillary out wire. The auxillary out issue has been addressed in the new version 4. Support is not widely available although there are a few good men out there. dannyc www.dcee.rotarymaniacs.com |
Another thing... PRO(of course, I really do like the unit)
You can view your maps in a windows based program and alter them, then download 'em to the ECU via a memory chip(supplied). The program is easy to use and can be downloaded from the WOLFEMS site along with the manual <-- that's a big PRO for me, I got to see and study what I was getting into before I bought it) |
if you have a problem with the haltech F9 software. make a windows boot disk and run it from dos off the floppy. i had to do that on my other laptop.... WOULD NOT run in 98 :(
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E6K
Pros: Real easy to install, a weekend or so (I am 16); Easy to tune; Flexible; Love the control it gives me Cons: I guess there are timing issues? Crappy at high vaccums. ******* Vac --> Boost crossover leanspots really mess up my smooth ride. Sometimes it seems inconsistant. |
Wolf 3D v3.1
PRO's: Hand controller More intuative interface than E6K, IMO. Great Software Easy to tune CON's: Not much support Hard to find MAPS No real datalogging No Boost vs. RPM tuning, only % LOAD vs RPM Difficult Cold Idle Memory Cartridge can only hold 1 MAP Still a great EMS though |
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