Choices Of Standalone Ecu Setup
02-06-2005, 03:35 PM
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Wow, you guys are really starting to scare me away from Haltech all together. I was looking into haltech because they allow for use of their ECU with the OEM CAS and coils, both of which I don't really want to change over. I am unaware of any other EMS that allows for that, but if anyone can shed some light on this, please let me know. I'm all ears here.
02-06-2005, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by falcoms' date='Feb 6 2005, 01:35 PM
Wow, you guys are really starting to scare me away from Haltech all together. I was looking into haltech because they allow for use of their ECU with the OEM CAS and coils, both of which I don't really want to change over. I am unaware of any other EMS that allows for that, but if anyone can shed some light on this, please let me know. I'm all ears here.
honestly i find everything else has something that is worse than the haltechs.
02-06-2005, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Feb 6 2005, 09:09 AM
Lets hear the story. I'm on the verge of pulling the trigger on getting an e11v2.
02-07-2005, 12:41 AM
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well i put mine in to replace the e6k which ran decently, but for the 3 rotor i wanted split timing.
so i spent a couple weeks making a harness and got it running before sevenstock 03, and once we started tuning it, it left me stuck. it was idling at a stoplight and just stopped. we towed it back to the house, and notice that while its still online, that the output side has shut down.
we cycle the power a couple times and it starts working, so we decide to drive it to the shop so the neighbors dont have to listen to us tune it (i live in **** land), and half way thru the 15minute drive it dies again. we hook it to pauls truck and haul it off the freeway. we fire up the laptop and it says "ecu in boot mode contact haltech dealer" since we were this was kind of disconcerting.
we tow car to the shop, and contact haltech. they end up sending us newer firmware. i also doubled up the grounds and put a condensor on the ecu power wire (the voltage jumps around a lot). this got us down to la and back without a hitch, and at 19.9mpg on a 3 rotor. cars never run better, its smoother faster just better all around than the e6k.
so a couple months after the car dies again. again its at a stoplight, and again the car just stops running and the ecu is in boot mode. i had the laptop (with all the soft and firmware on it) and tried reloading it all, but none of it works. pull car home. it will catch but it runs really bad, like it switches on and off, blows lots of smoke. i let the car sit for a couple of months while i decide wtf to do (i'm tired of working on the damn thing), i go to restart it, it starts right up and runs fine.
so i drive it around more. we get some new firm and software and the car runs better. until one day i drive it to work, and it feels like half the ecu shuts down, power goes to about 30hp, i limp it to work. we pull the ecu and feel how hot the chips on the board are, they are hot to the touch. going home it clears up as the outside temp goes down, so when i get home its fine.
the next morning i drive it too work, and the same thing happens, i keep driving and by the time i got to starbucks the exhaust was red hot all the way to the tips, and it started burning the carpet. the car would never run again with that ecu, we tried but it wouldnt start
the engine and harness were sold and with the same map, and a new e11 its fine.
so basically i have a stock ecu 13bt in there now and ive actually been able to drive the damn thing whenever i want to, which is cooler than a dead ecu 3 rotor
mike
so i spent a couple weeks making a harness and got it running before sevenstock 03, and once we started tuning it, it left me stuck. it was idling at a stoplight and just stopped. we towed it back to the house, and notice that while its still online, that the output side has shut down.
we cycle the power a couple times and it starts working, so we decide to drive it to the shop so the neighbors dont have to listen to us tune it (i live in **** land), and half way thru the 15minute drive it dies again. we hook it to pauls truck and haul it off the freeway. we fire up the laptop and it says "ecu in boot mode contact haltech dealer" since we were this was kind of disconcerting.
we tow car to the shop, and contact haltech. they end up sending us newer firmware. i also doubled up the grounds and put a condensor on the ecu power wire (the voltage jumps around a lot). this got us down to la and back without a hitch, and at 19.9mpg on a 3 rotor. cars never run better, its smoother faster just better all around than the e6k.
so a couple months after the car dies again. again its at a stoplight, and again the car just stops running and the ecu is in boot mode. i had the laptop (with all the soft and firmware on it) and tried reloading it all, but none of it works. pull car home. it will catch but it runs really bad, like it switches on and off, blows lots of smoke. i let the car sit for a couple of months while i decide wtf to do (i'm tired of working on the damn thing), i go to restart it, it starts right up and runs fine.
so i drive it around more. we get some new firm and software and the car runs better. until one day i drive it to work, and it feels like half the ecu shuts down, power goes to about 30hp, i limp it to work. we pull the ecu and feel how hot the chips on the board are, they are hot to the touch. going home it clears up as the outside temp goes down, so when i get home its fine.
the next morning i drive it too work, and the same thing happens, i keep driving and by the time i got to starbucks the exhaust was red hot all the way to the tips, and it started burning the carpet. the car would never run again with that ecu, we tried but it wouldnt start
the engine and harness were sold and with the same map, and a new e11 its fine.
so basically i have a stock ecu 13bt in there now and ive actually been able to drive the damn thing whenever i want to, which is cooler than a dead ecu 3 rotor
mike
02-07-2005, 08:11 AM
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mine ran like crap on the first ecu. had the interesting shut-off-while-tuning feature. the onboard datalogging didn't work. So I sent it back and they sent me another. Now I'm not sure if this one was OK or not, I think the motor was already badly hurt by the first one. It would backfire like mad at 6-7K RPM. Motor finally died. (these were both E11V1) During the summer I noticed they hadn't released any new firmware or software for the E11V1, so I called to see if they still supported it, and they told me to send it back and they would send me an E11V2. That's the one I have now. It should work.
They're on firmware 26 and about the 4th version of the tuning software. The injector type is now selectable, so that might take care of the heating problem Mike was having...
I think there are enough people using them now, they should work. Keep in mind I bought one 2 years ago, I think it was serial number 58 or something. The second one was serial number 7.
They're on firmware 26 and about the 4th version of the tuning software. The injector type is now selectable, so that might take care of the heating problem Mike was having...
I think there are enough people using them now, they should work. Keep in mind I bought one 2 years ago, I think it was serial number 58 or something. The second one was serial number 7.
02-07-2005, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Feb 7 2005, 06:11 AM
mine ran like crap on the first ecu. had the interesting shut-off-while-tuning feature. the onboard datalogging didn't work. So I sent it back and they sent me another. Now I'm not sure if this one was OK or not, I think the motor was already badly hurt by the first one. It would backfire like mad at 6-7K RPM. Motor finally died. (these were both E11V1) During the summer I noticed they hadn't released any new firmware or software for the E11V1, so I called to see if they still supported it, and they told me to send it back and they would send me an E11V2. That's the one I have now. It should work.
They're on firmware 26 and about the 4th version of the tuning software. The injector type is now selectable, so that might take care of the heating problem Mike was having...
I think there are enough people using them now, they should work. Keep in mind I bought one 2 years ago, I think it was serial number 58 or something. The second one was serial number 7.
They're on firmware 26 and about the 4th version of the tuning software. The injector type is now selectable, so that might take care of the heating problem Mike was having...
I think there are enough people using them now, they should work. Keep in mind I bought one 2 years ago, I think it was serial number 58 or something. The second one was serial number 7.
mine was an early v2, also on a 3 rotor i'm using 12 of the 14 outputs (6 fuel 6 spark) and when that same e11 was used on the wrx and the 13b-rew fc it was better, but still not 100%