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Karma 10-04-2007 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by Mahjik' post='884435' date='Oct 4 2007, 11:56 PM
What type of driving do you do with the car (street only, drag racing, road racing, AutoX, etc)? Each IC type has its benefits and drawbacks. It all depends on what you use your car for whether one type will suit you better than another type.



I like to do everything with my car...normally it only comes out on the weekends to go make some runs with my friends but it sees the track to...local drag and drift, so i really want something that can keep my temps down no matter what

Mahjik 10-04-2007 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by Karma' post='884439' date='Oct 4 2007, 11:21 PM
I like to do everything with my car...normally it only comes out on the weekends to go make some runs with my friends but it sees the track to...local drag and drift, so i really want something that can keep my temps down no matter what



Unfortunately, there isn't a "one application fits all". You will make a compromise. Its just not possible to have a car which can do everything great. What makes a car a great drift car, doesn't necessarily make it a good AutoX car or a good drag car.



If you never road race (i.e. take it to a local real race track, not track as some people refer to drag strips), then a FMIC will be just fine.

Karma 10-05-2007 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by Mahjik' post='884443' date='Oct 5 2007, 12:33 AM
Unfortunately, there isn't a "one application fits all". You will make a compromise. Its just not possible to have a car which can do everything great. What makes a car a great drift car, doesn't necessarily make it a good AutoX car or a good drag car.



If you never road race (i.e. take it to a local real race track, not track as some people refer to drag strips), then a FMIC will be just fine.



I understand this...my debate is on whether or not the Greddy is a better performing FMIC

9BASE3 10-05-2007 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by Karma' post='884453' date='Oct 5 2007, 12:00 AM
I understand this...my debate is on whether or not the Greddy is a better performing FMIC



You can't compare a FMIC to a SMIC. That's been discussed a million times.



Are you asking if the Greddy FMIC is better than other FMIC's? Then we have a discussion.

slowerthanyou 10-05-2007 04:22 AM

what about the hks v mount intercooler which mounts the intercooler and radiator in a v style shape.... sorry for thread jacking..... also my setup is going toward more top end speed..

montego 10-05-2007 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Karma' post='884431' date='Oct 4 2007, 08:42 PM
Really? I get one person saying the PFS doesnt work very well, now I am getting praises? lol alright well will my current 14psi be safe with this intercooler?



Honestly this is the first time I've ever heard anything negative about the PFS IC. It's not meant for 500+ HP but for it's application it's great. 14 psi on stock twins is exactly the enviroment that this IC was designed for . Just look at your intake temps.

Mahjik 10-05-2007 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Karma' post='884453' date='Oct 5 2007, 12:00 AM
I understand this...my debate is on whether or not the Greddy is a better performing FMIC



The Greddy is a good unit. However, it does require more installation effort than some of the other FMIC's (i.e. cutting and such). Since it is one of the larger IC's available, it also blocks a lot of direct air into the engine bay area. Some people have gotten around this by creating some ducting under the FMIC to bring fresh air into the radiator sitting behind it. FMIC's like Blitz and Apexi don't block the entire opening. While this means they probably don't offer the same charge cooling capability as the Greddy, the trade off is that you can achieve lower coolant temps with capturing the airflow around those FMIC's.



Once again, its about trade-offs and what your car will be primary used for. As already mentioned the PFS SMIC provides good charge temps for the stock twins at 14 PSI. Would the Greddy FMIC do better? Probably, but you'll most likely incur a little higher coolant temps as the trade-off.

Fd3BOOST 10-05-2007 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Karma' post='884432' date='Oct 4 2007, 08:52 PM
http://www.gothamracing.com/catalog/produc...products_id=646



That is the IC i am thinking about opting for





Dude unless your swapping to a bigger turbo I would save the $900 and the time to install. You should keep what you already have. The difference is so minimal your not going to notice it from the drivers seat. I don't know that the fact that you don't think the PFS IC looks all that great is worth the cash.

alberto_mg 10-05-2007 04:26 PM

Just keep the PFS IC and intake that you have. Its a great combo. I just got rid of that Greddy kit. I had too many issues trying to keep the car cool even on the street.

Karma 10-06-2007 07:21 PM

alright thanks a lot guys...i will just save the money when i swap out my turbos i guess....appreciate all the help


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