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Old 03-13-2005, 11:11 AM
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my brakes were less then good so replaced set up with ap racing 4 pots/ferodo ds2500 pads/braided lines/new master cylinder and bled the system fanaticly

problem pedal still feels spongy/brakes pull me up fine but pedal does not inspire confidence

rear calipers not seized

other then air in system still is it poss abs is knackered when i bleed with engine off get fluid at all 4 corners/with all valves shut and pump pedal pedal is firm and when engine starts pedal goes down a bit which is correct

has anyone bled the system with engine running before as read that mitsi 300gt need this as i am also running abs i wondered if this was a possability

hoping u guys can help as i am stumped
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Originally Posted by rx7veilside' date='Mar 13 2005, 09:10 AM
my brakes were less then good so replaced set up with ap racing 4 pots/ferodo ds2500 pads/braided lines/new master cylinder and bled the system fanaticly

problem pedal still feels spongy/brakes pull me up fine but pedal does not inspire confidence

rear calipers not seized

other then air in system still is it poss abs is knackered when i bleed with engine off get fluid at all 4 corners/with all valves shut and pump pedal pedal is firm and when engine starts pedal goes down a bit which is correct

has anyone bled the system with engine running before as read that mitsi 300gt need this as i am also running abs i wondered if this was a possability

hoping u guys can help as i am stumped





I've never heard of bleeding the brakes with the engine running. I don't see how that would make a difference. I would double check everything. Tight at the master cylinder, with no leaks? My guess is that you either have a leak somewhere or there is still air in the line.
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Get some speed bleeders or a pressure bleeder. saves so much time...
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:44 PM
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I had to use all my brain cells to comprehend that post.
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did you keep reservoir close to full all the time while bleeding? not sure what else it could be besides air..
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Old 03-13-2005, 02:23 PM
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[quote name='fritzfry' date='Mar 13 2005, 08:47 PM']did you keep reservoir close to full all the time while bleeding? not sure what else it could be besides air..

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going to have another bash bleeding system i am in uk and we dont have access to all the good tools/parts etc u guys have like speedbleeders etc..u get ur fuel at crazy price our equiv is $7.20 a gallon and our parts are usually a third dearer courtesy of tax man
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[quote name='Srce' date='Mar 13 2005, 01:43 PM']I had to use all my brain cells to comprehend that post.

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does that car stop you easily but just feel spongey? What happens if you tap the brakes first then press them hard? It could be a piston knockback problem that you are experiencing.
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[quote name='GreyGT-C' date='Mar 15 2005, 12:20 AM']does that car stop you easily but just feel spongey? What happens if you tap the brakes first then press them hard? It could be a piston knockback problem that you are experiencing.

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[/quote]car stops a lot better than before and only requires soft tap to get initial braking but pedal travel is further than i would like and feel doesnt improve with pumping am going to replace rear calipers as front are new ap 4 pots and then the abs unit and lastly the servo
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i have a speed bleeder and im in scotland it cost me 7 bucks from halfords
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