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CletusFD3S 01-20-2005 05:51 PM

Im sure this is a repost, so i appoligize in advance.



What short throw shifter do you use and what percent did it shorten the stock throw?

turbovr6 01-20-2005 06:24 PM

B&M, alot

FikseRxSeven 01-20-2005 06:25 PM

gotham racing... just as much as b and m.... about 50% reduction.



also they are the same as the 50 dollar ones on ebay

rx7girltk 01-20-2005 06:34 PM

gatham racing... not sure on differance in stock throw

RX7 RAGE 01-20-2005 09:53 PM

gotham racing in my car as well.

Fd3BOOST 01-20-2005 11:37 PM

I have a Mazdaspeed short shifter. The shifter wasn't short enough for my taste so I hacked an extra 2" off the top. I like it better since my re-design. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png

qwester007 01-21-2005 12:07 AM

B&M

30% reduction in throw

Built VERY solid

Highly recommend

CletusFD3S 01-21-2005 12:59 AM

where do i buy a gotham racing shifter? it shortens about 50% eh?

sirrelix 01-21-2005 02:00 AM

RE Amemiya - dunno how much but its super comfortable! I highly recommend it!

rx7girltk 01-21-2005 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by CletusFD3S' date='Jan 21 2005, 02:59 AM
where do i buy a gotham racing shifter? it shortens about 50% eh?






http://www.gothamracing.com/catalog/produc...products_id=608

turbovr6 01-21-2005 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by qwester007' date='Jan 21 2005, 02:06 AM
B&M

30% reduction in throw

Built VERY solid

Highly recommend




Indeed a quality piece. Also, I cut the top 1" off, making an even shorter throw, with a great feel, I'd say from neutral to any gear is about a 1 inch move https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

FD3S DRIFT 01-21-2005 06:31 PM

b&m or c's all the way

CletusFD3S 01-22-2005 07:24 PM

ok, from the sounds of it b&m is the way to go. 1st off, wheres the cheapest place to buy one https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png? and how do i go about cutting them? die grinder and a wire feed? Also, to those of you who have hacked yours, did you keep the stock shift boot?

CletusFD3S 01-24-2005 11:02 AM

no one?

jspecracer7 01-24-2005 07:52 PM

I had the B&M for awhile but got rid of it and went back to stock. Stock to me feels better.

rotoboy661 01-25-2005 09:23 AM

gotham is nice and cheap



dont know the throw percentage tho



its alot better than stock

Fd3BOOST 01-25-2005 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by CletusFD3S' date='Jan 22 2005, 05:24 PM
ok, from the sounds of it b&m is the way to go. 1st off, wheres the cheapest place to buy one https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png? and how do i go about cutting them? die grinder and a wire feed? Also, to those of you who have hacked yours, did you keep the stock shift boot?






I cut mine down with a hack saw and then just ran a die over it to run the threads down further. I didn't see any reason not to keep the stock boot. I even bothered to snap these pictures off for ye.

Sinful7 01-25-2005 10:26 AM

I have the C's Short throw shifter. It shortened the throw by 30% or so, and made the engagement very positive. Also, I'm not sure what the large base of the B&M Style shifters is about, but my C's exactly resembles the stock shifter. It's very beefy but not too heavy, I don't think it's physically that much shorter, but the throw sure is. I think the advantage of the C's style is shorter throw and improved feel. Anyway, C's went bust, so that brand isn't avail anymore.

apexkw 01-25-2005 12:35 PM

i have a C's shifter also. i like alot very crisp and smooth. i didnt know they went "bust" as you say but it is a very nice shifter.

GreyGT-C 01-25-2005 12:40 PM

i still use a modified stock shifter in my track car.

Srce 01-25-2005 12:40 PM

I still have my C's from Jason's final GB, in a box, never used obviously.

Sinful7 01-25-2005 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Srce' date='Jan 25 2005, 11:40 AM
I still have my C's from Jason's final GB, in a box, never used obviously.


https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Srce 01-25-2005 01:42 PM

LOL

turbovr6 01-25-2005 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by Srce' date='Jan 25 2005, 02:40 PM
I still have my C's from Jason's final GB, in a box, never used obviously.




Just would'nt fit in the tempo huh? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

CletusFD3S 01-25-2005 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jan 25 2005, 10:15 AM
I cut mine down with a hack saw and then just ran a die over it to run the threads down further. I didn't see any reason not to keep the stock boot. I even bothered to snap these pictures off for ye.


where did you hack it?

GoRacer 01-26-2005 01:10 AM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Jan 25 2005, 08:15 AM
I cut mine down with a hack saw and then just ran a die over it to run the threads down further. I didn't see any reason not to keep the stock boot. I even bothered to snap these pictures off for ye.




I don't understand this. You are not change the wieght's height or center of gravity, nor exchanging a longer base for a shoter shaft. I think you just have a shorter shaft. This may be more comfortable but I don't see how it shortens the pendulum swing of the shifter.

CletusFD3S 01-26-2005 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by GoRacer' date='Jan 26 2005, 01:10 AM
I don't understand this. You are not change the wieght's height or center of gravity, nor exchanging a longer base for a shoter shaft. I think you just have a shorter shaft. This may be more comfortable but I don't see how it shortens the pendulum swing of the shifter.


nor do i but they said they hacked it X amount of inches

Fd3BOOST 01-26-2005 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by GoRacer' date='Jan 25 2005, 11:10 PM
I don't understand this. You are not change the wieght's height or center of gravity, nor exchanging a longer base for a shoter shaft. I think you just have a shorter shaft. This may be more comfortable but I don't see how it shortens the pendulum swing of the shifter.






You need to re-read my original post.. MY SHIFTER IS A MAZDASPEED, not stock shifter. I cut down my mazdaspeed short shifter. Try to read the entire thread before you start replying to one particular post.

Sinful7 01-26-2005 11:36 AM

Think of the shifter as a triangle - Position 1 (side A), Position 2 (side B) and a straight line between the two positions at the top of the shifter (side C)



So, if you leave the angle AB the same, and shorten side A and B.. Side C is automatically shorter. The triangle would be similar, but smaller by whatever percentage you cut off.

Fd3BOOST 01-26-2005 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by CletusFD3S' date='Jan 25 2005, 09:31 PM
where did you hack it?




I took about an extra 2" off the top then re-threaded what was left.

Shane.Trammell 01-26-2005 12:52 PM

think of it like a door. if you swing the outside of the door from full open, 90 deg. for the sake of this explanation, to full close you will displace the far edge of the door probably about 3 feet depending on the size of the door. if you cut all of the door off but about 1 inch on the hinged edge you will acheive a 90 deg full open by displacing the door about 3 inches. make sense?

Sinful7 01-26-2005 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Jan 26 2005, 11:51 AM
make sense?


Yeah, but only if the door opens 90% and no one's doors open that far.

Shane.Trammell 01-26-2005 01:22 PM

you mean 90 degrees? im talking about a door in a house or something, like one thats restricted to a 90 degree swing by a wall or some other object

CletusFD3S 01-26-2005 01:23 PM

damn, theres alot more math than i was thinking...

Sinful7 01-26-2005 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Jan 26 2005, 12:21 PM
you mean 90 degrees? im talking about a door in a house or something, like one thats restricted to a 90 degree swing by a wall or some other object


Yeah, jebus. I'm a dumbass. I just wanted the little circle of the % symbol. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif I was thinking car door, since we're talking about a car. Again, my dumbassness at work.

AgentSpeed 01-26-2005 06:58 PM

dumbassness, good word choice, I like it! lol

ambassador_josh 01-28-2005 05:38 AM

How many of you get the rattling noise that the Mazdatrix website reports? That's one of my main fears for getting a short shifter...they say if you go short, theres like a 1 in 12 risk it'll start rattling, and even if you go back to stock, it'll still rattle.

Fd3BOOST 01-28-2005 07:00 AM

Mine never rattled.

fd3typer2 01-30-2005 03:45 AM

I am using th RE Amemiya unit. The throw is definitely shorter, not sure about the percentage, but not that much less than stock. The shifting is very smooth, smoother than the stock one which was there already. No rattles.

WaLieN 02-04-2005 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by qwester007' date='Jan 20 2005, 10:06 PM
B&M

30% reduction in throw

Built VERY solid

Highly recommend


Agreed! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif Mine used to rattle a little, then I put a new nylon bushing in and that fixed it.


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