Next Gen RX7?
Originally Posted by herblenny' post='841326' date='Oct 17 2006, 06:39 PM
Also, regarding your statement about why mazda went with 2 vs 3... who knows.. but I don't think its because of weight.. Mazda and most japanese companies have agreed to followed the gentlemens agreement. Which stated that no cars will have above 280HP. It could of been easily b/c mazda thought its pointless to put 3 rotor into a car to make under 280HP and increase production cost to put 3 rotor. Don't forget, Mazda care more about how to save money during production than making high HP. Also 3 rotor set up only increase the weight by 50-100lbs.
from personal experience they didnt have a 3 rotor because its too hot, and too thirsty....
remember the heat from an fd? the 20b is worse, 11mpg is easy too....
the original rx8's (the us spec jc cosmo test cars) set the carpets on fire....
to what inanimate object said. marketing wise the rx8 has helped to keep the rotary alive but at the same time it made the rx program has become more loose on their expectations and produced a 4 door with less power, more weight and not as responsive handling. I'm glad they made it even though I'm not impressed with the looks. its just that It seems like they aren't giving all they have anymore and Its dissapointing and yea the looks don't really look like much like a car anymore either
I don't think it's fair to say the guy's at mazda aren't giving all they have, I doubt that deducing that a niche model as different as the rx-8 would work was easy! Sure they could have made a much faster and more focused car, but would they have sold nearly as many? Sucks when enthusiasts like us are the car buying minority, I'd be willing to bet the engineers at mazda share that opinion too
Originally Posted by black93fd' post='843447' date='Oct 31 2006, 10:28 PM
to what inanimate object said. marketing wise the rx8 has helped to keep the rotary alive but at the same time it made the rx program has become more loose on their expectations and produced a 4 door with less power, more weight and not as responsive handling. I'm glad they made it even though I'm not impressed with the looks. its just that It seems like they aren't giving all they have anymore and Its dissapointing and yea the looks don't really look like much like a car anymore either
You have to look at what the companies want... to sell cars!
Their goal isn't to meet 1-5% of the population who want fast impractical cars. They are trying to meet the mass market, who has family, looking for mid 20s to 30k in value, comfortable, nice looking, and all purpose cars... This is Why RX8 has 4 seats and 4 doors... Why it has all the air bags in every corner?? Why it has traction control and ***** up on dyno?? Seriously, general population don't get on this forum and think how they could lighten their car or what can i do to go faster..
Also, if you look at current emission standards, it needs to have clean exhaust gas. thats why it need couple of cats and crap load of junk underneath. Do I think its a great engineered car?? Of course!!! Do I think its a sports car like the FD?? NO! But it is what it is. A great handling, 4 seater, with unique engine.
Originally Posted by herblenny' post='840182' date='Oct 9 2006, 01:11 PM
agree.. our new mx-5 looks like smaller vs. of rx8... and i'm not that fond of 8s.
I agree that the Kabura concept is ill conceived and strongly hope that it doesn't go into production as the next RX-7. I think in order to get an "RX-9" into production Mazda(Ford) will have to utilize the MX-5 unibody to save money and throw in a Renesis 13B with a single turbo attached. It shouldn't be all that hard to pass emission standards if they utilize some of the emissions components from the RX-8. Fuel economy standards and emissions are what are killing any future rotary engine cars. Perhaps we'll see another version of the Rx-7 go into production when fuel cell vehicles go into full productio as the fuel will be inexpensive and much cleaner. Didn't Mazda test a hydrogen powered RX-8?
I got a word from Mazda Dealership here in town today that they heard about the new RX9. He wasn't 100% but he said it will be supercharged or turbo's.. but he thinks it will be supercharged rotary. Can't wait to see it!
Originally Posted by herblenny' post='843969' date='Nov 4 2006, 03:35 PM
I got a word from Mazda Dealership here in town today that they heard about the new RX9. He wasn't 100% but he said it will be supercharged or turbo's.. but he thinks it will be supercharged rotary. Can't wait to see it!
I can't wait to go to the Mazda dealership in the 6 and drool all over a RX9 since I'm in over my head with my third gen.
Originally Posted by herblenny' post='843969' date='Nov 4 2006, 04:35 PM
I got a word from Mazda Dealership here in town today that they heard about the new RX9. He wasn't 100% but he said it will be supercharged or turbo's.. but he thinks it will be supercharged rotary. Can't wait to see it!
yeah, my dealer has been spittin that crap for 2 years.
honestly i dont take much stock in anything they say
I'm thinking that when it's all said and done it will probably be a 3-rotor hybrid in order to meet the strict fuel and emissions requirements that keep trying to phase the rotary engine out. With any luck this will be the case and one of the major aftermarket companies will create an ecu that will allow everyone to delete the hybrid componentry and batteries. If not then I'm sure that an individual will work it out and post vague instructions on the modifications.


