Next Gen RX7?
10-12-2006, 07:33 PM
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The Kabuta, Kamoto whatever is a 3 seat car. From what i've read they want to repeat history and start with a NA 7 but whether it will be the akimoto, don't know. I read the next engine was supposed to be a 15B and wondered if so then why did the 8 have one. I don't see how they can stuff a 3 rotor in to the yamamoto which is the size of a civic hatchback. I await the day we can do 16B turbo swaps as easily as a B18 Integra/Civic swap.
10-12-2006, 09:35 PM
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8 has 15B? Thats a news to me.
Also, 3 rotor 20B NA wouldnt be hard to stuff into a civic size car. I don't know if you seen one in FB, but they don't take up much space (less than a foot longer than normal 13B).
Also, 3 rotor 20B NA wouldnt be hard to stuff into a civic size car. I don't know if you seen one in FB, but they don't take up much space (less than a foot longer than normal 13B).
10-13-2006, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by herblenny' post='840669' date='Oct 12 2006, 07:35 PM
8 has 15B? Thats a news to me.
Also, 3 rotor 20B NA wouldnt be hard to stuff into a civic size car. I don't know if you seen one in FB, but they don't take up much space (less than a foot longer than normal 13B).
1.8 miata engine is 21" bellhousing mount to front pulley, 20b is 22".... its not a big engine
my tr-3 engine is 24"
10-13-2006, 11:44 PM
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no the rx8 is not a 15b. it sais 13b on the core. and i would love a 15-16b whatever. imagine that as a 3 rotor. a rotor torque machine!
so much speculation...why dont they just release there plans!? *** holes!
so much speculation...why dont they just release there plans!? *** holes!
10-16-2006, 08:10 PM
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Well for the same reason they did a 2-rotor for the FD instead of a 3-rotor is because of weight. That's the reason of them cosidering a 15B. But as I mistyed above, why didn't they do that allready with the RX8?
The engline layout is different on the renesis, so a 3-rotor renesis could have fitment issues becuase of the intake and if it gets a turbo with the nose have to be streched out to enlarge the engine bay?
The engline layout is different on the renesis, so a 3-rotor renesis could have fitment issues becuase of the intake and if it gets a turbo with the nose have to be streched out to enlarge the engine bay?
10-17-2006, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sen2two' post='840836' date='Oct 13 2006, 09:44 PM
no the rx8 is not a 15b. it sais 13b on the core. and i would love a 15-16b whatever. imagine that as a 3 rotor. a rotor torque machine!
so much speculation...why dont they just release there plans!? *** holes!
because they want to keep us interested (like we wouldnt be if we found out)
10-17-2006, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GoRacer' post='841093' date='Oct 16 2006, 05:10 PM
Well for the same reason they did a 2-rotor for the FD instead of a 3-rotor is because of weight. That's the reason of them cosidering a 15B. But as I mistyed above, why didn't they do that allready with the RX8?
The engline layout is different on the renesis, so a 3-rotor renesis could have fitment issues becuase of the intake and if it gets a turbo with the nose have to be streched out to enlarge the engine bay?
Ha?? Actually, if you look at Acosta 3 rotor swap, it fits very nicely in 8. Also true peripheral intake doesn't take much space, as renesis intake set up.
I guess you really haven't seen 3 rotor in person. Its literally a rotor housing and plate longer than 2 rotor. It really isn't much longer than 13b and most people with 3 rotor FD (less space than 8) did it without much modification of elongating the nose.
Also, regarding your statement about why mazda went with 2 vs 3... who knows.. but I don't think its because of weight.. Mazda and most japanese companies have agreed to followed the gentlemens agreement. Which stated that no cars will have above 280HP. It could of been easily b/c mazda thought its pointless to put 3 rotor into a car to make under 280HP and increase production cost to put 3 rotor. Don't forget, Mazda care more about how to save money during production than making high HP. Also 3 rotor set up only increase the weight by 50-100lbs.
10-31-2006, 01:09 AM
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Mazda has been saying for many many years they where going to bring the Rx7 back but I'll believe it when I see it. as far as that concept its looks like total ****! I think mazda hasn't built a car thats looks anything like a "true sports" car since the fd. the rx8 is a good family sports ..uuhhhh N/m it sucks too... 4 doors no matter how much you hide em is still gonna be a rotary powered accord. Mazda really does need a new design team. they need to realize that are a car company and not NASA
10-31-2006, 04:47 AM
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I think you guys complaining about the rx-8 should think a bit first, in the long run it's probably done more for the rotary engine than any car in history - think about what would happen if it wasn't such a huge success, you think ford would let mazda continue throwing money at spinning triangles? We wouldn't even be talking about a new rx-7 if it wasn't for the 8 