intercoolers
11-17-2002, 10:22 AM
#21
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There might be some miscommunication centered around the word 'track', too. I think Jeff means:
track = road racing
where I commonly see it used as
track = drag strip
I wish everyone used these words:
track = road racing
strip = drag strip
I've clicked on too many "went to the track" posts and found a time slip I guess.
Every FD with a FMIC that I have seen at the (road racing) track has overheated. I've only seen two, but they overheated badly on a day that wasn't very hot. Only half the FDs with an SMIC overheat. You need every cooling advantage you can get if you go to hot (road racing) tracks.
-Max
track = road racing
where I commonly see it used as
track = drag strip
I wish everyone used these words:
track = road racing
strip = drag strip
I've clicked on too many "went to the track" posts and found a time slip I guess.
Every FD with a FMIC that I have seen at the (road racing) track has overheated. I've only seen two, but they overheated badly on a day that wasn't very hot. Only half the FDs with an SMIC overheat.
-Max
11-17-2002, 11:29 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by turbojeff' date='Nov 17 2002, 10:53 AM
Vosko:
You know that overheating is a common problem with FMICs, I've got a friend that has the RX-7 Fashion FMIC that has occasional overheating. Not just cruising down the freeway but climbing hills while following slower moving cars.
Lets put it this way then, engine operating temps will be higher with a FMIC than with a SMIC. Do you agree with that? Do you have a real temp gauge?
Stock FDs overheat on the track under certain conditions (really hot outside), a FMIC in front of the rad isn't going to make the car run cooler.
Jeff
You know that overheating is a common problem with FMICs, I've got a friend that has the RX-7 Fashion FMIC that has occasional overheating. Not just cruising down the freeway but climbing hills while following slower moving cars.
Lets put it this way then, engine operating temps will be higher with a FMIC than with a SMIC. Do you agree with that? Do you have a real temp gauge?
Stock FDs overheat on the track under certain conditions (really hot outside), a FMIC in front of the rad isn't going to make the car run cooler.
Jeff
11-17-2002, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by maxcooper' date='Nov 17 2002, 11:22 AM
There might be some miscommunication centered around the word 'track', too. I think Jeff means:
track = road racing
where I commonly see it used as
track = drag strip
I wish everyone used these words:
track = road racing
strip = drag strip
I've clicked on too many "went to the track" posts and found a time slip I guess.
Every FD with a FMIC that I have seen at the (road racing) track has overheated. I've only seen two, but they overheated badly on a day that wasn't very hot. Only half the FDs with an SMIC overheat. You need every cooling advantage you can get if you go to hot (road racing) tracks.
-Max
track = road racing
where I commonly see it used as
track = drag strip
I wish everyone used these words:
track = road racing
strip = drag strip
I've clicked on too many "went to the track" posts and found a time slip I guess.
Every FD with a FMIC that I have seen at the (road racing) track has overheated. I've only seen two, but they overheated badly on a day that wasn't very hot. Only half the FDs with an SMIC overheat.
-Max
11-17-2002, 11:47 AM
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I think we've got a little bit of agreement here. Yes Vosko my statement was to general. Your single turbo FD has some cooling advantages over a twin FD. Every FD with a FMIC doesn't overheat. Yes Max I meant track = road racing
.
A lot of people have problems with mods that they really don't report to the public. I've personally seen modded cars with FMICs overheat, even with upgraded radiators that didn't overheat before the FMIC install. The chances are that you'll at least raise engine temps with a FMIC, everything else equal.
Pancakes are ready, gotta go eat
Later,
Jeff
.A lot of people have problems with mods that they really don't report to the public. I've personally seen modded cars with FMICs overheat, even with upgraded radiators that didn't overheat before the FMIC install. The chances are that you'll at least raise engine temps with a FMIC, everything else equal.
Pancakes are ready, gotta go eat
Later,
Jeff
11-17-2002, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='Nov 15 2002, 08:01 PM
Get the Blitz. I got to see one yesterday, and it's a really good intercooler. I don't like how the piping is run, but it's definitely better than the greddy 2 row. The 3 row is what you want, even for stock twins.
11-18-2002, 09:32 PM
#28
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Originally Posted by vosko' date='Nov 15 2002, 03:47 PM
so far loi has been good even phinsup ordered from him !
since i'm close by to him.. i picked them up.
HKS carbon-fiber ti showed up at his office in one day of ordering.
HKS type-s front mount intercooler.. two days
HKS twinpower.. had in stock
he has pretty close ties with the dealers... and is honest when items are backordered so you wont be wondering what in the world is going on.
11-18-2002, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by grngtcfd3s' date='Nov 15 2002, 10:35 AM
ok guys what you think... apexi front mount or blitz smic.... i have a blitz intake which i would like to keep, but the apexi looks very good also.. anyone have these or know which is better???
the APEX'i and Blitz does not require cutting of the bumper because the intercoolers are mounted behind the reinforcement bumper bar.
i would get the BLITZ since you already have their intakes.
the APEX'i kit comes with filters and you dont need those.
they both would offer the same amount of performance. which is waaaaay better than stock.
if i put my hand on the outlet side of the frount mount intercooler its soooo cold. sometimes at night it feels like a pepsi can right out of the fridge.
HKS and Greddy require cutting of the front bumper unless you modify the piping and brackets for them to mount like the APEX'i and BLITZ versions.
