Anti-det Device, Interesting Thread
06-04-2004, 03:34 PM
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Thine Ginsu!
Posts: 101
it all goes back to kd...I am investigating with skip since I have the kd anti det in my car...but it dont look like that.
I do know that pg unlimited was supposed to partner up with kd to distibute the anti debt but something fell through.
Bob
thank God I can run 87 out there, my wallet hurts enough as it is
I do know that pg unlimited was supposed to partner up with kd to distibute the anti debt but something fell through.
Bob
thank God I can run 87 out there, my wallet hurts enough as it is
06-04-2004, 03:44 PM
#16
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: union, new jersey
Posts: 8,079
what a rip off!!! thank god i never paid any interest to this stupid thing....
once you use this, you will forever be unable to use your trailing plugs, that tiny hole will fill up with carbon so fast and so thick
once you use this, you will forever be unable to use your trailing plugs, that tiny hole will fill up with carbon so fast and so thick
06-04-2004, 03:48 PM
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Tulsa, OK
Posts: 3,346
OMG, that is a joke. I can disconnect the plug wires on the trailing plugs and save $450. All this talk I have heard about this magical device and its a stupid bolt that screws into your trailing plug holes...gimme a break. KDR would invent something this ridiculous. Especially after they blew a number of motors by having the timing split all screwed up. "what can we do to prevent bad tuning" "well we'll block off the trailing plugs, this way we'll never tune them backwards again".
06-04-2004, 03:48 PM
#18
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 2,467
This should just about sum it up...
TrailPlug®
Consumer Warning
As with any automotive aftermarket products, there are certain risks involved in installing and using this product. Highlighted below are some of the possible risks that may be experienced by customers while using the TrailPlug®. Customers purchase and use this product at their own risk!
The use of TrailPlug® may do the following:
* Increase combustion temperatures from leaner A/F ratio's, leading to apex seal damage, rotor face damage, turbo damage, and other heat susceptible damage.
* Increase tuning requirements for stand alone/piggy-back engine management systems.
* Although this product reduces the chances of octane induced detonation, it is not a 100% guarantee.
We have found that rotary engines running standalone or piggyback engine management computers may require additional tuning for better startup, idle, and part throttle acceleration while using this product. We believe this problem arises from the tuning already programed to utilize the trailing timing maps during these operations for better emissions control.
We have also found that the TrailPlug® works very well for rotary engines running stock engine management systems. The TrailPlug® system at the time of this writing is not compatible with the RX-8 and second generation RX-7 stock engine management. We have yet to R&D these two systems and do not condone the use on these vehicles.
Please read our terms and conditions before making your purchase as they will educate you for a better informed decision. The terms and conditions outline Performance Group Unlimited, LLC and Danco, Inc responsibility for the sale of this device and the responsibility of the customer in purchasing of the TrailPlug®. The above information should be deemed a supplement to other terms and conditions provided on other pages.
TrailPlug® Terms & Conditions
TrailPlug®
Consumer Warning
As with any automotive aftermarket products, there are certain risks involved in installing and using this product. Highlighted below are some of the possible risks that may be experienced by customers while using the TrailPlug®. Customers purchase and use this product at their own risk!
The use of TrailPlug® may do the following:
* Increase combustion temperatures from leaner A/F ratio's, leading to apex seal damage, rotor face damage, turbo damage, and other heat susceptible damage.
* Increase tuning requirements for stand alone/piggy-back engine management systems.
* Although this product reduces the chances of octane induced detonation, it is not a 100% guarantee.
We have found that rotary engines running standalone or piggyback engine management computers may require additional tuning for better startup, idle, and part throttle acceleration while using this product. We believe this problem arises from the tuning already programed to utilize the trailing timing maps during these operations for better emissions control.
We have also found that the TrailPlug® works very well for rotary engines running stock engine management systems. The TrailPlug® system at the time of this writing is not compatible with the RX-8 and second generation RX-7 stock engine management. We have yet to R&D these two systems and do not condone the use on these vehicles.
Please read our terms and conditions before making your purchase as they will educate you for a better informed decision. The terms and conditions outline Performance Group Unlimited, LLC and Danco, Inc responsibility for the sale of this device and the responsibility of the customer in purchasing of the TrailPlug®. The above information should be deemed a supplement to other terms and conditions provided on other pages.
TrailPlug® Terms & Conditions