2nd Generation Specific 1986-1992 Discussion

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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 07:04 PM
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the autronic systems do knock retard, they have a self learning, and trction control, but no leading and trailing split



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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pengaru' date='Mar 4 2003, 07:59 PM
how would that happen? wouldnt it retard the trailing ?



yeah that doesnt make much sense to me at all vosko, it shouldnt be any different from retarding the timing manually by turning the CAS for instance, and it would be just a few degrees probably unless you've got some serious problems.
well a J&S can only retard leading. as far as i know they can only do leading ? but i could be wrong
Old Mar 4, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by vosko' date='Mar 5 2003, 01:13 AM
[quote name='pengaru' date='Mar 4 2003, 07:59 PM'] how would that happen? wouldnt it retard the trailing ?



yeah that doesnt make much sense to me at all vosko, it shouldnt be any different from retarding the timing manually by turning the CAS for instance, and it would be just a few degrees probably unless you've got some serious problems.
well a J&S can only retard leading. as far as i know they can only do leading ? but i could be wrong [/quote]

tec3 != j&s
Old Mar 4, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pengaru' date='Mar 4 2003, 08:15 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Mar 5 2003, 01:13 AM'] [quote name='pengaru' date='Mar 4 2003, 07:59 PM'] how would that happen? wouldnt it retard the trailing ?



yeah that doesnt make much sense to me at all vosko, it shouldnt be any different from retarding the timing manually by turning the CAS for instance, and it would be just a few degrees probably unless you've got some serious problems.
well a J&S can only retard leading. as far as i know they can only do leading ? but i could be wrong [/quote]

tec3 != j&s [/quote]

i don't think TEC III or any other EMS can do 100% knock retard on a rotary.... i could be wrong
Old Mar 4, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by vosko' date='Mar 4 2003, 05:16 PM
[quote name='pengaru' date='Mar 4 2003, 08:15 PM'] [quote name='vosko' date='Mar 5 2003, 01:13 AM'] [quote name='pengaru' date='Mar 4 2003, 07:59 PM'] how would that happen? wouldnt it retard the trailing ?



yeah that doesnt make much sense to me at all vosko, it shouldnt be any different from retarding the timing manually by turning the CAS for instance, and it would be just a few degrees probably unless you've got some serious problems.
well a J&S can only retard leading. as far as i know they can only do leading ? but i could be wrong [/quote]

tec3 != j&s [/quote]

i don't think TEC III or any other EMS can do 100% knock retard on a rotary.... i could be wrong [/quote]

i'm not really sure either, it would be nice to have some sort of warning though



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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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https://www.nopistons.com/forums/index.php?...hl=knock+sensor



I bumped my old thread up so we could get some more input
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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Wow!! Ummm!!! I'm not sure what to think now. I wish I knew about this before hand. I guess I didn't do enough research. I'm sure when Steve Kan tunes my car he will do a great job, but I'm a little worried about the fuel that I get in this town. I always run 93 octane but I don't think that it's the gratest. Is there a way that I can ensure that the fuel in my car is good? If I add some octane booster will it help to clean up the fuel so that I don't experience bad knock?
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 09:19 PM
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'octane booster' only increases your octane by a few points, so like, adding one bottle to a tank of 93 will make it like 93.2 or something, it's relatively useles...



adding significant amounts of xylene or toluene can make a huge difference though, this archive is kindof interesting:

http://www.eng-tips.com/gpviewthread.cfm/q.../lev2/6/lev3/35
Old Mar 9, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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that second guy was right, a couple years ago vp103 was only like 3.80 a gallon delivered to your house



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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 10:09 PM
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Umm that was like going back to chem class in highschool. I didn't understand a word some of those guys said, but I got your point that octane boost is a total waste of money and time. From now on I will run 93 octane and if I plan on doing some serious racing I will mix it with some race gas or just run race gas.
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