Shane.Trammell

If yours doesnt leak, then it must not rain in your world. I have yet to ever hear of a vert that doesnt leak. Unless you went to some painstaking measures to insure leakfree operation. Brand freagin new they leaked. You telling me that after some nice rain, that your carpets are BONE dry?[/quote]

yeah im totally not kidding you my top doesnt leak.

Rob x-7

If yours doesnt leak, then it must not rain in your world. I have yet to ever hear of a vert that doesnt leak. Unless you went to some painstaking measures to insure leakfree operation. Brand freagin new they leaked. You telling me that after some nice rain, that your carpets are BONE dry?[/quote]

yeah im totally not kidding you my top doesnt leak.[/quote]

Does it rain at all in your world?

89 Rag

If yours doesnt leak, then it must not rain in your world. I have yet to ever hear of a vert that doesnt leak. Unless you went to some painstaking measures to insure leakfree operation. Brand freagin new they leaked. You telling me that after some nice rain, that your carpets are BONE dry?[/quote]

yeah im totally not kidding you my top doesnt leak.[/quote]

He thinks the "squish" noise when he get in his car is supposed to happen

Rob x-7

I think he should donate his car to the Mazda museum in Hiroshima as the only vert made that doesnt leak?

89 Rag

No kidding. Mine used to leak in the upper left part of the winsdhield, even after I tightened the rod/hook assy. Even after you adjust the top as described in the factory service manual, It ALWAYS leaks somewhere...

Rob x-7

I have that phantom leak that pools water behind the drivers seat, the occasional leak right on to my window switch on the drivers door, but I can cure that if I roll the window up after the door is shut by reaching over from the passenger side afterwords. I am hot on the trail of that water behind the drivers seat, this winter I vow to fix it.

89 Rag

Before I got my new top, I removed the latch assy, and misc plastics around the left hand side, and used a little backer rod cut in half and some vulkeum sealant, it made a "gasket" of sorts. Then I just cleaned the residue after the squish of sealant from tightening down. The leak behind the seat is a bastard, I dunno where it comes from, the tube from the pocket runs inside the plastics behind the seat, but runs into the grommet where the storage compartments are/would be. Isn't that sectioned off from the driver area with reinforced sheet goods and automotive joint sealant? I dont know how the hell the water gets there, school me if you develop any results.

Rob x-7

Im thinking it comes in the doors, even with new belt moulding, there is still a space, my drains are clear at the bottom of the doors, but if I remeber correctly, some of the plastic sheeting got ripped during the 2 paint jobs I gave the car. The water can come in the doors, then easily travel to where it pools, or its trickling down where the targa meets the soft part, all I have to do is take off the plastic sill when you open the door, and the plastic trim that goes up the rear section behind the seat area, then let the water flow and watch for the source of the leak, thats how I got every one of my cars with t-tops to stop leaking. I also am going to try, if it doesnt look too ghetto, to weatherstrip adhesive a tiny sliver of a wiper blade to the top of the window to seal that off better as well, done carefully, it wont be visable unless the windows are only partially down, even then it will only be a tiny black sliver, and my windows are dark as the ace of spades anyhow

89 Rag

Im thinking it comes in the doors, even with new belt moulding, there is still a space, my drains are clear at the bottom of the doors, but if I remeber correctly, some of the plastic sheeting got ripped during the 2 paint jobs I gave the car. The water can come in the doors, then easily travel to where it pools, or its trickling down where the targa meets the soft part, all I have to do is take off the plastic sill when you open the door, and the plastic trim that goes up the rear section behind the seat area, then let the water flow and watch for the source of the leak, thats how I got every one of my cars with t-tops to stop leaking. I also am going to try, if it doesnt look too ghetto, to weatherstrip adhesive a tiny sliver of a wiper blade to the top of the window to seal that off better as well, done carefully, it wont be visable unless the windows are only partially down, even then it will only be a tiny black sliver, and my windows are dark as the ace of spades anyhow[/quote]

Oh yeah, that plastic that is dum-dumed to the inside of the door. that would explain the moisture stain on the backing of the door panels. (bangs head on desk) I think the door drains would be the problem too in that the plastic sill moulding isnt sturdy and has no moisture prevention attached. The simple wind shear created from driving can easily push the water under the sill plate and down on to the floor. The wood-like backing on the floorboard, underneath the sill is moisture stained as well...My thought process hadnt got that far on the ressurection of the rag until I was reminded of the leakiness. Ill have to add another item to my "aw ****" list

Rob x-7

Im thinking it comes in the doors, even with new belt moulding, there is still a space, my drains are clear at the bottom of the doors, but if I remeber correctly, some of the plastic sheeting got ripped during the 2 paint jobs I gave the car. The water can come in the doors, then easily travel to where it pools, or its trickling down where the targa meets the soft part, all I have to do is take off the plastic sill when you open the door, and the plastic trim that goes up the rear section behind the seat area, then let the water flow and watch for the source of the leak, thats how I got every one of my cars with t-tops to stop leaking. I also am going to try, if it doesnt look too ghetto, to weatherstrip adhesive a tiny sliver of a wiper blade to the top of the window to seal that off better as well, done carefully, it wont be visable unless the windows are only partially down, even then it will only be a tiny black sliver, and my windows are dark as the ace of spades anyhow[/quote]

Oh yeah, that plastic that is dum-dumed to the inside of the door. that would explain the moisture stain on the backing of the door panels. (bangs head on desk) I think the door drains would be the problem too in that the plastic sill moulding isnt sturdy and has no moisture prevention attached. The simple wind shear created from driving can easily push the water under the sill plate and down on to the floor. The wood-like backing on the floorboard, underneath the sill is moisture stained as well...My thought process hadnt got that far on the ressurection of the rag until I was reminded of the leakiness. Ill have to add another item to my "aw ****" list [/quote]

You have to be one with the leak, only then can you conquer it. You are on the right path grasshopper. When you can grab this handfull of 10mm bolts from my hand.....then you are ready