Slips Out Of Second With Clutch Depressed
01-20-2005, 07:51 AM
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This only happens in 2nd, and it started doing it after I replaced the shifter bushings. When I'm in 2nd, and I push the clutch in to coast or take a corner, when I let the clutch back out and get on the gas I'm greeted with a wonderful redline scream. I can watch the stick just shift right back into neutral. Is there anything I can do about it? I could see this being a problem if I were to, say, try some auto-x, where evidently 2nd is used most of the time.
01-20-2005, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Jan 20 2005, 10:51 PM
This only happens in 2nd, and it started doing it after I replaced the shifter bushings. When I'm in 2nd, and I push the clutch in to coast or take a corner, when I let the clutch back out and get on the gas I'm greeted with a wonderful redline scream. I can watch the stick just shift right back into neutral. Is there anything I can do about it? I could see this being a problem if I were to, say, try some auto-x, where evidently 2nd is used most of the time.
01-20-2005, 11:50 AM
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That's bizarre.
With the clutch pushed & no load on the countershaft the gears should stay put.
There should be some light friction in the lever if your new shift bushings are shimmed properly.
Does 1st act loose going in or out?
Does 2nd act loose going in?
(The 1-2 cluster gear detent springs are common to both.)
Does the lever buzz or vibrate?
Do you maybe have a heavy front weighted shift ****?
With the clutch pushed & no load on the countershaft the gears should stay put.
There should be some light friction in the lever if your new shift bushings are shimmed properly.
Does 1st act loose going in or out?
Does 2nd act loose going in?
(The 1-2 cluster gear detent springs are common to both.)
Does the lever buzz or vibrate?
Do you maybe have a heavy front weighted shift ****?
01-20-2005, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sureshot' date='Jan 20 2005, 12:50 PM
That's bizarre.
With the clutch pushed & no load on the countershaft the gears should stay put.
There should be some light friction in the lever if your new shift bushings are shimmed properly.
Does 1st act loose going in or out?
Does 2nd act loose going in?
(The 1-2 cluster gear detent springs are common to both.)
Does the lever buzz or vibrate?
Do you maybe have a heavy front weighted shift ****?
With the clutch pushed & no load on the countershaft the gears should stay put.
There should be some light friction in the lever if your new shift bushings are shimmed properly.
Does 1st act loose going in or out?
Does 2nd act loose going in?
(The 1-2 cluster gear detent springs are common to both.)
Does the lever buzz or vibrate?
Do you maybe have a heavy front weighted shift ****?
It doesn't buzz, and it doesn't vibrate any more than usual, same as any gear.
Stock shift ****.
Clutch pedal to the floor, shift into 2nd, wait a couple seconds (less than 10), and it'll just slowly start moving towards 1st, and just pop right into neutral. When the clutch is out, no problems at all.
01-20-2005, 12:43 PM
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I was wrong about the common detent spring.
Each gear has it's own spring & key to keep the clutch hub snapped in.
It's inside the synchronizer ring.
Here's a link to the FSM
Look around page 14.
click here
Each gear has it's own spring & key to keep the clutch hub snapped in.
It's inside the synchronizer ring.
Here's a link to the FSM
Look around page 14.
click here
01-21-2005, 07:49 AM
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I also figured out yesterday that while in 1st, if I shove the shifter to the left, it moves over several inches, almost like shifting into another gear, except to the left. I've seen this once before in another guy's car, he claimed it was some sort of safety feature (for parking? I have no clue), but I've never heard anything else about it. Do they all do this?
01-21-2005, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Jan 21 2005, 05:49 AM
I also figured out yesterday that while in 1st, if I shove the shifter to the left, it moves over several inches, almost like shifting into another gear, except to the left. I've seen this once before in another guy's car, he claimed it was some sort of safety feature (for parking? I have no clue), but I've never heard anything else about it. Do they all do this?
The wiggle room in each gear should be about the same.
