1987 TII, when I put it in any gear the car just sits there and acts like nothing happened.
its a little tough getting it into gear, but it does go. Clutch hydrolics seem to be working because I can see it moving on top of the tranny car is sitting outside now, it sat for one full year not being driven and now has this problem, until then it was daily driven. Any clues? I hope to get it up in the air this week and have a peek-see and would like some ideas |
i had this happen, drained the fluid out of the tranny and noticed that even though it appeared to go in gear it wasn't, the gears werent moving in the tranny.
I sprayed it with some pb blaster and let it sit, then wacked it with a dead blow and it was still working when i sold it 30k later! |
One of my suspects is no fluid- maybe it all leaked out, sitting for a year maybe it kind of froze
the engine doesnt react or anything, its like its in neutral |
If its anything to do with the clutch you should be able to turn the engine off, put it in first, then if u click the starter it should push the car forward. If not I'd say the tranny isnt actually going into gear.
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Originally Posted by phinsup' post='794737' date='Jan 17 2006, 09:09 PM
If its anything to do with the clutch you should be able to turn the engine off, put it in first, then if u click the starter it should push the car forward. If not I'd say the tranny isnt actually going into gear. can u get it in gear with out pressing the clutch pedal? if it goes in gear change the clutch |
Originally Posted by 1979rx7' post='794739' date='Jan 17 2006, 08:19 PM
thats if u clutch start is not working can u get it in gear with out pressing the clutch pedal? if it goes in gear change the clutch yea i was assuming the clutch isnt completely hosed since it was working a year ago. |
i have had similiar problem, pressuure plate stuck when lever pushed cause it sat around for about 6 months.
If pedal has pressure on it try working it , till it un sticks. Failing this remove inspection plate check everything looks ok, give it some shock treatment . |
Originally Posted by phinsup' post='794740' date='Jan 17 2006, 09:22 PM
yea i was assuming the clutch isnt completely hosed since it was working a year ago. why was the car parked ?may be the clutch was bad>? |
Originally Posted by 1979rx7' post='794743' date='Jan 17 2006, 08:25 PM
why was the car parked ?may be the clutch was bad>? Cause until it sat for a year it was being driven daily. I am assuming that if rob parked it due to a bad clutch he could deduct on his own why it wont move. |
Originally Posted by phinsup' post='794744' date='Jan 17 2006, 09:27 PM
Cause until it sat for a year it was being driven daily. I am assuming that if rob parked it due to a bad clutch he could deduct on his own why it wont move. ok that means dont park yor rx7 for more that 12 ours i dont think they like to be sitting |
the guy who owned it decided he wanted a new car, he just parked it and never drove it again, I did try pushing the pedal in and out a bunch of times, Ill have to put it up and check it out
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The T/O could be stuck on its slide, but usually the pedal stays to the floor.
Put it in 4th and push the car by hand to see if the motor turns. Give you an idea if the clutch is engadging. 4th is usually the last surviving gear in a big failure. |
ralphs volvo had the clutch disc die, it happened all at once. basically he drove home, and on the way back to work, the disc screwed up. car barely moved
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so all it does it just revs in gear?
I don't think it's the throw out bearing. The throwout bearing is used to push on the fingers of the pressure plate to release the clutch disc from the flywheel. I would say either the clutch disc is fubar and is slipping like there is no tommorrow. Or there is something wrong with the tail section of the tranny and the shift forks causing you to not leave neutral in the tranny. |
its like its in neutral, there is no load on the engine, the car does not move at all, no action or smells come from the car if you rev it in gear
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HAHAHA
How Ironic! MY 83' is doing exactly the same thing. I know its the clutch. I thought maybe it might be a defective slave cylinder, so I took it off, and same thing. The car goes nowhere in any gear. Unfortunatly mine decided to stop engaging the engine while I was on the freeway. EXACT same symptoms as yours. At first though I could smell burning clutch, but after a point no smells at all. Ill bet $100 that your pressure plate diaphram is the culprate. just worn out. So it doesnt have enough tension to push your friction disc to the flywheel. However, www.rx7.com Sells some Bonez Racing clutch's for a good deal! 100% more clamping force than stock |
Also I forgot to add, that right before it started to go it was slipping real bad, Like Id have to rev it up to 6000RPM just for it to catch a little.
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I have a spare stock clutch set up I can throw in there for now
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can you select 1st or any gear while the engine is idling? or can you only select a motion gear when the engine is off?
if the case i'm describing is correct you have a hdraulic problem... if you can select a motion gear while the engine is running and when you go release the clutch pedal and you step on teh gas and you can't go anywhere. It's either the slave is stuck and continually pushing the pressure plate and not letting the clutch disc make contact with the flywheel... OR... the clutch disc doesn't exist anymore and is in 1000 little peices.... But you should hear a grinding or bad sound of the disc is FUBAR. |
there is no noise, the fork is moving back and forth, I can shift into gears but its a little tough, it goes
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rob, turn the car on. while its idling dont push the clutch in or anything, just try to put it into gear...doyou hear the gear grind? if so you know you got some movement in the trans.
i'd say pick up the car, drain the trans and take a peek inside. its easier and cheaper then just figuring the clutch is shot, then once you take it apart, oh surprise nothings wrong with it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png. so try the easy stuff before diving head in. if you still cant find it, ill trade you an n/a for the t2 https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png. kevin. |
im hoping I can peek in the inspection plate and see something, trust me im not just going to go dropping the trans for the clutch.
do those trans require special fluid or will any gear oil do? I can hear some gear grinding when I play with it |
Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='795180' date='Jan 19 2006, 07:14 PM
do those trans require special fluid or will any gear oil do?
I can hear some gear grinding when I play with it bla everyone here will say "oh put redline synthetic, no put "superextra HP trans fluid" if it's just a daily driver you just need some 90W, it's the reccommended fluid. it might just be gummed up, the pretty chilly temps lately would add to that fact....unless you have it inside or something. it's gonna be in the 50's this weekend so try it then...or bring it in the shop. kevin. |
im hoping to get it on the lift Monday
I stated it up the other day when it was warm and it still did nothing differently |
Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='795180' date='Jan 19 2006, 07:14 PM
im hoping I can peek in the inspection plate and see something, trust me im not just going to go dropping the trans for the clutch. do those trans require special fluid or will any gear oil do? I can hear some gear grinding when I play with it |
I have a 15 gallon drum of that crap and a pump, guess Ill drain it and give it a shot
im hoping that when I go to drain it nothing comes out- but I think its something with the clutch like what happened to slayer |
you said i was good at breaking rx7's.....see you just looked at it and broke that one!
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Originally Posted by vosko' post='795692' date='Jan 22 2006, 03:18 PM
you said i was good at breaking rx7's.....see you just looked at it and broke that one! But you don't have one anymore... Rob still does. |
I got this one broken
I feel like a typical RX7 owner now 1 vert that needs a engine 1 vert that runs and drives perfect 1 TII that runs, doesnt drive 1 extra TII engine, 2 TII transmissions, and the rest of the parts needed for a turbo swap,stand alone, FMIC, etc.... which car do you think im going to swap in? thats right- the only one that runs AND drives https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif dont know if I will get the car on the lift today- I want to go play with my new Jeep CJ https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif |
Originally Posted by Cheers!' post='795818' date='Jan 23 2006, 08:05 AM
But you don't have one anymore... Rob still does. hmmmm, i don't http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...c/DSCF0060.jpg |
man you gotta clean up that garage. are you going to be the first do a renesis swap with rx8 trans, TII diff w/ FD torsen?
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I have the same problem on my GSL-SE. It sat for maybe 6 months to a year. I went to show it to a perspective buyer and it would not move at all. I told him to gtfo and I sat down and it just worked. Maybe a few weeks later I went to move it again and now this problem. I cannot get it to go anywhere now. Only thing different about my situation is that it seems to go into gear (though it is not) w/o any struggle, its as if the cluth is stuck in or something ? I can freely move it in and out of gear w/o the clutch pedal depressed while the engine is on. I put it in first w/ the engine off and engaged the starter and the car did not move. I have no idea what the problem is.
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for now mine sits, I cant be bothered
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give it to me!
kevin. |
give me money
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Originally Posted by Cheers!' post='796066' date='Jan 24 2006, 12:47 PM
man you gotta clean up that garage. are you going to be the first do a renesis swap with rx8 trans, TII diff w/ FD torsen? no, ported engine n/a, custom intake manifold, s4 diff, who knows what else.... |
turns out the car was missing the passenger side halfshaft!
put another one in, everything is A-OK! turns out someone borrowed the one on the car before I bought it and did not replace it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png |
yeah ok that might do it
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Haha, I could imagine that little diff flange spinning like crazy, you sitting there thinking "what the hell is wrong with this thing?"
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='815027' date='Apr 20 2006, 05:06 PM
turns out the car was missing the passenger side halfshaft! put another one in, everything is A-OK! turns out someone borrowed the one on the car before I bought it and did not replace it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png LOL, we popped the axle out of seths car once, it looked like it was in there, but it didnt enguage, car would move a little |
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