Fluid Dynamics

I agree that putting on a stiffer rear bar will cause the inside rear wheel to get lighter in turns, and if you have an open diff, the wheel will spin more often when putting power down.



If I were you, I'd get the LSD and a stiffer rear bar, and return the front one to stock. I'm still using my base model front bar and I just might remove my GXL rear one in favor of something even stiffer. The LSD causes significant understeer compared to the open diff. My car still has some slight understeer despite my toe angle adjustment. The car's balance is pretty good for fast road driving, but not good for tight autox driving.



Ah, the neverending tinkering of suspension setup.

j9fd3s

what kinda toe are you running up front? going to zero toe in the 1st gen did wonders

Jims5543

Dammit j9fd3s!! your avatar is screwing with my head.



FYI- I am running a Racing beat front and rear sway bar. I have a hard time making my car rotate. I remedied the problem on short tight courses. I run 36 PSI rear tire pressure and 26 PSI front. This is with my hoosiers and my coil overs so of course every car is going to be different.



Try playing with tire pressure. Oh yeah and if your running street tires you are going to understear no matter what.



I was just Autocrossing my mini with Falken Azenas and it was pushing everywhere. I switched my front tires only to a set of Kumho V700 racing compound tires and the understeer was gone.



There are so many variables to deal with your going to find out that you just need to set your car up for what feels best for you.

CGeek2k

Funny, I dont notice understeer on my car. Maybe I'm so used to it, I dont recognise it. Or maybe I'm just not going fast enough

Jims5543

In an Autocross situation you WILL understear with street tires. Its the ability to manage the understear or slow down enough to minimize understear that makes it tolerable. I could never race in a street tire class nor can I understand why anyone would want too - other than for budget reasons.

j9fd3s

lol, i know! mine too!

Fluid Dynamics

I guesstimate it to be at 1/8" toe out in front and 1/4" toe in on the rears.



I think I'm going to take the stock rear subframe camber link, cut & thread it with a stud, and adjust out some of the natural negative camber that the rear wheels get with lowered suspension. I hate doing things that remove traction, but yeah, understeer sux and I'm stuck with street tires for the time being. There's probably a degree of negative camber on the rears as I speak . . and my street setup is the stock camber in front . . which aint very negative.



Two weeks at the next autox, I'm going to take down some built F bodies in their slicks with my street tired FC NA! Muahahaha. (I only wish)

FCmaniac

I've never ran with any R compound tires, just the Azenis sport street tires. I imagine if I did, I wouldn't want to go back either.



I keep thinking its banzai with the avatar