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89 Rag 01-11-2010 05:27 PM

As some of you know I did a fairly extensive restoration on my car, but pretty much left the engine and running gear close to stock. Sometime ago the local hot rod council saw it fit to grant me a set of plates that allow me to forgo smog testing, meaning I never have to get my car tagged again, so the sky is the limit as far as power plant options.



At this point im over considering the idea of selling the car, I may be buried in it actually, but im equally over the 114 fpt/117 hp it puts to the street as well.



Given the scenario that you had to do nothing else to the car cosmetically and it would not be a daily driver, what engine/trans set-up would you run, and possibly an all inclusive, round number budget? Keep in mind the car will inevitably sit for months at a time only being started to maintain engine internals and such...

thatpoorguy 01-11-2010 05:58 PM

http://www.pulseperformancere.com/ga...es4rota054.jpg



4 rotor that a shop is producing in new zealand. about 26 grand US, before adding shipping, tarriffs and taxes https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif



http://www.pulseperformancere.com/prodpack.html

89 Rag 01-11-2010 06:06 PM

That would certainly be interesting...



I've thrown that idea around before, a local engine bulider has a 4 rotor built from 12a parts. He wants 10 grand to lease it (basically the shaft and plates) and I buy eveything else. I'm guessing without freshening that motor or any 4 rotor has a short life (in miles)?

thatpoorguy 01-11-2010 06:14 PM

PPRE builds their own. it's a full fabrication shop and i think they acquired a liscence to build them

mazdaspeed7 01-11-2010 06:15 PM

What are you going to do with it the 3 times a year you do drive it? Do you want a show car motor that doesnt have to work all that well, but look good on paper, and look good? Or do you want something that will crank up every time you hit the starter, even if its been sitting for 3 months, and is cheap to work on/maintain?



If it was me, Id go with an LS2. Relatively inexpensive for a swap, great support, great power, great torque, and pretty bulletproof. Cam, long tube headers and exhaust, and intake is a 500 whp engine that runs like your mothers camry, and will get as good of gas mileage on the highway.

thatpoorguy 01-11-2010 06:16 PM

and i love how in the pictures of their workshop there's an rx3 with 666 on the side of it lol

thatpoorguy 01-11-2010 06:20 PM

to hell with it, get a duramax diesel and do like the owner of nitrous express did. he has over a thousand lbs. of torque but gets 32 mpg on the highway lol

89 Rag 01-11-2010 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7 (Post 837490)
What are you going to do with it the 3 times a year you do drive it? Do you want a show car motor that doesnt have to work all that well, but look good on paper, and look good? Or do you want something that will crank up every time you hit the starter, even if its been sitting for 3 months, and is cheap to work on/maintain?



If it was me, Id go with an LS2. Relatively inexpensive for a swap, great support, great power, great torque, and pretty bulletproof. Cam, long tube headers and exhaust, and intake is a 500 whp engine that runs like your mothers camry, and will get as good of gas mileage on the highway.



Im staying all things rotary with it, no pistons in this chassis unless were talking about brakes.



The engine would be presentable but more functional. Everything on this car now worked and worked well but its pretty close to stock. Don't get me wrong, for what I did to the N/A 13B, it was a turn key go application no matter how long it sat. In the rainy months I still let it warm up and got the tires warm before putting it up again. For this new application I would still take it to events and such, but im really over the whole trophy winning show and shine thing with this car, been there done that, "I wanna go fast momma" To me maintenance is maintenance, now do I want an engine I have to yank out and freshen every 3 or 4k, hell no, but the car wlll set it out the rainy months no two ways about it so if the engine needs to be ran, driven all the time to stay healthy then it probably wont work for me at this time.



Im just trying to get a feel again for PP, turbo, 2,3,4 rotor and an all inclusive cost to get the budget hammered out, i was out of the game for a while and need the be briefed on the latest and greatest

Rob x-7 01-11-2010 06:40 PM

I highly suggest a 13B-RE if you want to stay rotary, and a LS if you want pure raw power with equal wow factor

89 Rag 01-11-2010 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by thatpoorguy (Post 837492)
to hell with it, get a duramax diesel and do like the owner of nitrous express did. he has over a thousand lbs. of torque but gets 32 mpg on the highway lol



the thought of that made me cringe! diesel, in a 7? gawd no! : )


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