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drftk1d 04-13-2005 07:55 AM

why do people keep saying different things as to what octane gasoline you should use in the car (for the record, i am talking about the turbo engine). Some people say 87, some say 93, wtf.

1988RedT2 04-13-2005 08:22 AM

I have never heard a sane person suggest anything but premium gas in the turbo. I would never run anything less than 93.



Detonation in a turbo under boost will likely destroy your engine. Higher octane gasolines are less prone to detonate. End of story.

drftk1d 04-13-2005 08:28 AM

thats what i keep telling other people but they always say "no use 87, its in the TII owners manual, blah blah yadda."

j9fd3s 04-13-2005 08:34 AM

[quote name='drftk1d' date='Apr 13 2005, 05:27 AM']thats what i keep telling other people but they always say "no use 87, its in the TII owners manual, blah blah yadda."

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you can use 87 in a STOCK turbo 2, but its still not a great idea

1988RedT2 04-13-2005 08:46 AM

Yeah, I had to run out to the car and check the manual. It does say "at least 87 octane" or something like that. Remember, that's for a new car with all systems in new condition.



For me, it's a simple matter of risk versus reward. The risk is a blown engine. The reward is saving 15 cents a gallon. You decide. If you daily drive the car and don't dog it, you'll probably be fine.



On a side note, my DD is a Volvo 940 Turbo. I usually run regular. Volvo "recommends" premium. I goosed it a little getting onto the interstate last night, and she started rattling pretty good. Guess I better start running midgrade. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

inanimate_object 04-13-2005 09:41 AM

If it's not detonating, you're ok - I'm pretty sure they all have the same calorific value - don't know where I heard that though.



Mark

Ghiadesigns 04-13-2005 09:49 AM

In general you should run the lowest octane that keeps you from pinging. If you have no detonation with 87 then run 87 anything more will cause excess carbon buildup. I run 87 on my Ducati motorcycle and it runs great with it.

1988RedT2 04-13-2005 11:40 AM

[quote name='Ghiadesigns' date='Apr 13 2005, 09:49 AM']In general you should run the lowest octane that keeps you from pinging. If you have no detonation with 87 then run 87 anything more will cause excess carbon buildup. I run 87 on my Ducati motorcycle and it runs great with it.

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This is true, but I think it bears mentioning that while in a piston engine, you can get out of the throttle when you hear pinging and not do any damage, often with a turbo rotary, the damage is already done.

venomrx7 04-14-2005 02:34 PM

my dads hemi dodge ram requires premium... go figure.



for a turbo anything, I wouldn't run anything less than 91.

CrassFC3S 04-16-2005 02:28 AM

93 or higher ooooonly... why risk it??? 10 cents a gallon or whatever youre going to risk your motor?? naaaah


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