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mazdadrifter 07-31-2003 05:37 PM

Ok I'm diving into my engine swap, I'm swapping from s4 to s5 (both) turbo blocks and using a haltech (most likley) to controll the new engine. Removing omp and plugging injector holes.



4 720's, walbro, hybrid, lightweight flywheel, couple other mods.



I'm removing all a/c and converting my p/s to manual. And removing all other non-essentials to the engine (keeping the heater core and that's about it). If it doesn't make me go faster then it's getting pulled.



OK, my question to you guys is... do you have any pointers for me before I jump into this swap? Like should I remove something that won't function anymore? (like do i need that metal vaccum line spider that wraps around the engine and intake?)



Or any tips or tricks that you guys had to learn the hard way??



Or even any links that might help me out.



This is the first major amount of work that i've done to my car, and I want to make sure I get it right the first time.



Any info will be hugely appreciated. Thanks in advance!!!



A couple quick questions....



Can I unbolt the engine from the tranny without supporting the tranny in any way??



Can I remove the engine without removing the tranny?? ( I will have plenty of room in front because I plan on taking my radiator out during a/c removal)



Is there anything other than engine managment issues that I need to address before a s5 block will drop into my car??

djgiantrobot 07-31-2003 05:47 PM

lots of stuff to cover here, but basically doing the most basic stuff on the engine will make your life ALOT easier and make the tuning easier as well. You don't have to worry about tuning for load and stuff because your AC and PS is gone. Anyway my suggestion

1) is to put as much stuff onto the engine before you install it, it will save alot of time later.



2) Clean the hell out of the engine bay and everything (pressure washer) while its empty, or if you are going paint it, do it then.



3) taking the engine and tranny out together and putting them in together is alot easier in my opinion.



4) don't cheap out on the electrical connectors for wiring your stand alone, order from an electronics store online, not radio shack. I suggest high quality GM weatherproof or deusch connectors, don't just use cheapo butt connectors or even worse twist and wrap with electrical tape.



5) invest in a case of carb cleaner and a case of PB blaster as well as a whole mess of shop rags

mazdadrifter 07-31-2003 10:09 PM

awesome https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif



Yeah I'm installing a new clutch,PP flywheel and everything so it would probably be easier to do it where i have room to work (out of the car)



Will i need to replace anything on the rear of my tranny due to removing it?? I've heard the u-joints can be a bastard to get apart and that a lot of people tear them up trying.



I'm getting mazdaspeed motormounts. Oil cooler lines and such.



The motor is a j-spec, so I'm praying that there is no damage done to it already.



I'm really starting to think this car is going to be a screamer when it's back together, I'd say I've already taken out 120 lbs of stuff that'll never go back in. I'm just worried that it's being removed from the wrong place. (up front) I'd rather have a slightly front heavy car than the opposite, so I'm thinkin about not relocating the battery.



Thanx for the info, this beer's for u https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/beerchug.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/beer.gif

mazdadrifter 07-31-2003 11:44 PM

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mazdadrifter 07-31-2003 11:48 PM

done for the night, havein a couple six cold ones



never realized how much **** they crammed under the hood, my car is going to float away cheers https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/40oz.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

mazdadrifter 07-31-2003 11:50 PM

and my engine is black because of a leaking front main seal and oil cooler line, oil is caked on the bottom of the block



I don't know what im gonna do with a clean engine bay?? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

pengaru 07-31-2003 11:54 PM

all I can say is take your time, don't compromise things because you stopped caring temporarily due to lack of gumption, if it gets tiring, frustrating, or old, just walk away for a bit... the gumption will return, and when it does, you will continue and quality will result.



good luck.

mazdadrifter 08-02-2003 04:14 PM

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mazdadrifter 08-02-2003 04:17 PM

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engine swap in a 1 car garage

mazdadrifter 08-02-2003 04:18 PM

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1Revvin7 08-02-2003 04:37 PM

nice engine stand https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

rfreeman27 08-02-2003 04:44 PM

the old tire/racing slick is a very standard engine stand brotha!

Apex13B 08-02-2003 06:39 PM

you should invest in a nice tall motor stand and the pineapple adapter

dr0x 08-02-2003 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by mazdadrifter' date='Aug 2 2003, 01:16 PM

Lemme guess, you blew the front rotor? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

Jims5543 08-03-2003 07:53 PM

So how far did you get with the j-spec? Is it torn down?



I got thinking about the injectors and my injectors only have about 5K miles on them if that they are pretty clean. How old are yours?

Jims5543 08-06-2003 08:28 PM

So Mazdadrifter.....hows the car coming along https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



You have too many distractions of the female kind.



You suck!

Jims5543 08-10-2003 10:05 PM

O.K. Man*****!!! Where are you at with this?? I know for a fact the ho's left this morning. Hopefully you got in a good day of work on the car.

mazdadrifter 08-11-2003 10:12 PM

j spec is down to the block, im removing the oil injectors and trying to find a bolt to plug the holes



clutch was ordered today so i will have it wensday, all i need now is the ecu



looks like I'll be having some company to get make me food, I swear to god i'll put her ass to work jims



i need a dutch door for my bedroom

mazdadrifter 08-11-2003 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by Apex13B' date='Aug 2 2003, 03:39 PM
you should invest in a nice tall motor stand and the pineapple adapter

if i got all that i'd be afraid to get it dirty https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

mazdadrifter 08-11-2003 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by dr0x' date='Aug 2 2003, 07:45 PM
Lemme guess, you blew the front rotor? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

actually i was thinkin the rear rotor because the plugs were black when i pulled them, i haven't turned that motor over to find out for sure tho



what makes you think the front?

Jims5543 08-11-2003 11:46 PM

Just for you guys so your in the know. Since Mazdadrifter moved to Florida he has had more girls then he knows what to do with. Sometimes 2 at a time. You bastard I hate you!!



Now he has them flying in and living with him for a week at a time.



Meanwhile his poor car is sitting there in pieces while he his plowing.



I hate you.

rmaiersg 08-12-2003 11:15 AM

My rear rotor blew but the front rotor was black as hell. So much carbon build up on the rotor.

mazdadrifter 08-12-2003 11:43 PM

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who says a handfull is plenty?

Jims5543 08-13-2003 07:53 PM

Thats my old hybrid!! Thats a Series 5 turbo with hybrid T-04e internals. I dyno'd at 242 RWHP with that at 9 PSI. With 4 - 720's you should be able to get over 300 RWHP.



Heres a fuel computer:

http://www.rx7.com/cgi-local/2ndgencalc.cgi



I looked for the 720's and cannot find. So one of three things are happening here.

1. those are the 720's that I gave you

2. Matt got them by accident

3. JR still has them.



We will get the the bottom of this tomarrow.

mazdadrifter 08-13-2003 10:55 PM

jr might be saving them for the "race car" ....dork

mazdadrifter 08-31-2003 06:46 PM

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quick update,



here's my 4 puck sprung clutch with a competition clutch pressure plate. Very solid looking setup, should hold nicely for the power I plan on running.

mazdadrifter 08-31-2003 06:49 PM

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here it is installed with my sr motorsports flywheel (a jims5543 special https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif )



as well as my block (minus the bullshit) with the t04 upgrade



block is dirty, not very pretty, but I don't really care, it's not a show car, it's my money maker



block goes in tonight!!!!

mazdadrifter 10-19-2003 02:49 PM

damn, thought I would bring this thing back from the dead... since i last posted...



engine went in of course



found out that the driver's side motor mount was bent from the car the motor came out of



installed a high performance fuel filter



installed all new stainless lines for fuel



converted the series 4 fuel rails to work with -6 line



mounted wolf 3d in glove box



mounted profec b in glove box



relocated batter to back bin



replaced power steering rack to manual



had a bracket made to fit where the bac usually is for my new fpr

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/upl...1064693510.jpg



installed two msd blaster ss coils for my leading plugs



relocated starter solenoid



replace brake lines w/ ss lines



bought a daily driver for donor parts and transportation



installed 4 720 injectors



removed secondary butterflies, and ported throttle body



installed mazda racing two sheath main pulley and alternator pulley



installed ss oil cooler lines



I HAVE YET TO....



Install msd digital 6 plus box



wire the wolf



install ground control coil overs



install camber plates



install corksport catback



NOS possibly depends on dyno numbers

teknics 10-19-2003 03:28 PM

wow you have been a busy little boy havent you?



cant wait to see it in action.



VIDEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!



kevin.

mazdadrifter 10-19-2003 03:40 PM

ya, jim got on me the other day about not updating this. I think he thinks im sitting on my ass over here. Cant wait until this thing is done. Should be a 1 day project to swap a motor due to the simplicity.



Not that I plan on blowing one!!!!

mazdadrifter 12-20-2003 12:09 PM

woooooooooooooo



car is idling, installing fmic, but I'm in ky for christmas, gonna post an ass load of pics when I'm bak

teknics 12-20-2003 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by mazdadrifter' date='Dec 20 2003, 01:09 PM
woooooooooooooo



car is idling, installing fmic, but I'm in ky for christmas, gonna post an ass load of pics when I'm bak

cant wait to see the fan clutch https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png.



kevin.

Nemesis 12-20-2003 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by mazdadrifter' date='Dec 20 2003, 12:09 PM
woooooooooooooo



car is idling, installing fmic, but I'm in ky for christmas, gonna post an ass load of pics when I'm bak

You're in KY for XMAS? KY wrestling line in Old School??? Sounds like fun! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif


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