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Shane.Trammell 08-02-2002 05:22 PM

what do i need to change my trans from auto to manual?

89 Rag 08-02-2002 05:33 PM

You need a manual trans, first of all, then you need the remaining components of the system; clutch resevior, slave cylinder, clutch pedal assembly, shift boot assembly, etc. and a shitload of time and patients.

Shane.Trammell 08-02-2002 05:40 PM

is that all of it. sorrow rpmwarz is trying to find the stuff so i need to know everything. is the flywheel the same??

89 Rag 08-02-2002 05:45 PM

im not sure on the flywheel, but if the counterweight is different from auto to manual, my guess would be the flywheel will be different also...

Shane.Trammell 08-02-2002 06:21 PM

ok thanks. ok everyone keep replying please

Rob x-7 08-02-2002 08:14 PM

Pilot bearing and seal.

Shane.Trammell 08-02-2002 08:15 PM

ok thanks

Rob x-7 08-02-2002 08:19 PM

What in the **** is that in your avatar?

rotary88 08-02-2002 08:23 PM

looks like a ponyif u ask me, i have to admit though its better than that slater avatar he used to have

89 Rag 08-02-2002 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Aug 2 2002, 07:19 PM
What in the **** is that in your avatar?

(LMAO) I said the same thing to myself but ignored it. But since you said it,

For ******* real, why did you put a ****** pony in your avatar, i'd a put a pic of that rag top you have instead, what the ****?

vosko 08-02-2002 09:26 PM

need manual tranny flywheel.... personally unless you never plan on selling car don't convert to manual tranny. you will not get the $$$$ back on your car :(

Shane.Trammell 08-02-2002 09:52 PM

i really dont care about getting the money back. And why are you guys hating on the avatar? Slater was awesome, and my little pony is cool too.

Shane.Trammell 08-02-2002 09:54 PM

oh my tranny is about to go out

vosko 08-02-2002 10:00 PM

you can get a used auto tranny for $100 if you look around https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR

Shane.Trammell 08-02-2002 10:08 PM

well sorrow rpmwarz was talkin about his friend who and a junk yard and had a trans. so i was looking at that one.

rotarychainsaw 08-03-2002 12:07 AM

auto trans' cars don't have flywheels.

Shane.Trammell 08-03-2002 09:40 AM

are you sure they dont have flywheels, i could have swarn i saw one when i tool off my starter.

horn4858 08-03-2002 12:46 PM

they got what you call a flexplate. its thinner than flywheel and bolts to torque converter. it has ring gear made into it for starter. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/mellow.png

13BAce 08-03-2002 01:01 PM

You can keep the A/T counterweight and get a lightweight flywheel if you don't want to get a M/T flywheel. The pilot bearing and seal will be required, as well as a M/T with a clutch, pressure plate, and T/O bearing. The M/T driveshaft will also be necessary. I think your car has a 3.9 rear. You could switch to the 4.1, but it's not necessary. Don't forget the shifter, shifter panel, and starter, as well as the pedals, slave cylinder, master cylinder, clutch hose, etc.



The M/T won't bolt right into the frame because the rear mounting points are different. So you'll need to make a new mount out of some angle iron. I once bought an 86 parts car that was converted from auto to manual, and I noticed that the frame didn't seem to have the holes in the same spots as the M/T cars. Either that or the guy had used an earlier style transmission in the car.



The 89-91 A/T cars have a computer controlled transmission. So you'll have to deal with the wiring issues for the switches, etc. The diagrams can be found in the factory manuals, which you can download at http://www.fc3s.org .



I'm sure that there's alot I left out, but it's a start.

Shane.Trammell 08-03-2002 01:40 PM

ummm maybe ill just get an auto. hehe

SoRRoW 08-03-2002 03:51 PM

Ok here is the deal...



I got a 87/5 speed tranny..

90 peddles..

clutch master..

flywheel





I recommend you getting a clutch kit..with the throw out bearing...pliot bearing..disc..pressure plate....



I have to look at the car to think what else.



I can get racing clutches made cheap..

4 puck ceramic ..full race clutch disc for $70.

plz respond on this...tell me what you need

13BAce 08-03-2002 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Aug 3 2002, 04:40 PM
ummm maybe ill just get an auto. hehe

Yeah, if you decide on starting the manual coversion my bet is that the car never runs again. :P

Shane.Trammell 08-03-2002 06:49 PM

hey i dont think im gonna do that conversion. its gonna be too much work. does he have any autos??

Rob x-7 08-03-2002 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Aug 3 2002, 07:49 PM
hey i dont think im gonna do that conversion. its gonna be too much work. does he have any autos??

Did you get a quote to get your rebuilt compleate with warranty and all? You can save some money by taking it out and putting it in.

Shane.Trammell 08-03-2002 07:37 PM

the people at mazda told me it would be 1800 plus hard parts to rebuild. im sure someone would do it for cheaper.

13BAce 08-03-2002 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Aug 3 2002, 10:37 PM
the people at mazda told me it would be 1800 plus hard parts to rebuild. im sure someone would do it for cheaper.

Mazda will just rebuild it to the same shitty specs it came with from the factory. If you DO get it rebuilt then got to a shop that can beef it up AND warranty the work.

Rob x-7 08-03-2002 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Aug 3 2002, 08:37 PM
the people at mazda told me it would be 1800 plus hard parts to rebuild. im sure someone would do it for cheaper.

**** Mazda doing it, go to a good transmission shop with a good reputation. I should call my transmission shop and ask them how much they would charge, you being in Texas does it no good, but IM curious now. I never blew up a transmission they did for me.

Shane.Trammell 08-03-2002 08:12 PM

yeah find out how much then i can say that someone else quoted me that price if its better than what i get.

tinvestor 08-04-2002 10:03 PM

I did a conversion on an 86 took me a while but the biggest problem I had was that I forgot to jump out the neutral safety switch and couldnt get it running I eventually bought a manual wiring harness. Had to build extensions for mounts because the body mounts are in different place. I would do it again if the car was special ( mint, upgrades,nice paint, good stereo install, you get the idea) but otherwise buy a manual with a blown engine strip your car and put your engine in the "new" car, sell the parts maybe even come out ahead!



CURRENT PROJECT: 10TH ANNIVERSARY UNDER 10 SECONDS



parts:

big j bridge housings, race modified eccentric shaft, race bearings, hurley 3.5 mm duplex seals, hurley apex oiling system, NOS setup, t-70 turbo, front mount intercooler, injectors, 4 additional injectors, race flywheel, custom intake, custom cold air intake box, haltech computer with 486 laptop to run it, polished aluminum ( all of it cost me over $2500 includes calipers, rotor housings, trans case, water pump housing, front cover, power steering/ac bracket, you get the idea) clutch that will hold the horses?, subframe connectors?



cost: $15,000



THANK GOD I HAVE MASTERCARD!

1Revvin7 08-04-2002 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by tinvestor' date='Aug 4 2002, 11:03 PM
I did a conversion on an 86 took me a while but the biggest problem I had was that I forgot to jump out the neutral safety switch and couldnt get it running I eventually bought a manual wiring harness. Had to build extensions for mounts because the body mounts are in different place. I would do it again if the car was special ( mint, upgrades,nice paint, good stereo install, you get the idea) but otherwise buy a manual with a blown engine strip your car and put your engine in the "new" car, sell the parts maybe even come out ahead!



CURRENT PROJECT: 10TH ANNIVERSARY UNDER 10 SECONDS



parts:

big j bridge housings, race modified eccentric shaft, race bearings, hurley 3.5 mm duplex seals, hurley apex oiling system, NOS setup, t-70 turbo, front mount intercooler, injectors, 4 additional injectors, race flywheel, custom intake, custom cold air intake box, haltech computer with 486 laptop to run it, polished aluminum ( all of it cost me over $2500 includes calipers, rotor housings, trans case, water pump housing, front cover, power steering/ac bracket, you get the idea) clutch that will hold the horses?, subframe connectors?



cost: $15,000



THANK GOD I HAVE MASTERCARD!

sounds like fun.... im doing it to just not 10's.....

evilT2 08-04-2002 11:02 PM

yea dude, that sounds like a sweet setup but not on a 10th ae, that would be like blasphemy or something

ILUVMY88CABRIO 08-05-2002 03:11 AM

Got any pics of your AE? Mine is in my sig. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Rob x-7 08-05-2002 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Aug 3 2002, 09:12 PM
yeah find out how much then i can say that someone else quoted me that price if its better than what i get.

$1100, and thats with them taking it out and putting it back in, 2 year warranty as well. Like I said- **** MAZDA, I wouldnt go to them for anything but parts, no service!

13BAce 08-05-2002 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Aug 5 2002, 11:18 AM
[quote name='Shane.Trammell' date='Aug 3 2002, 09:12 PM']yeah find out how much then i can say that someone else quoted me that price if its better than what i get.

$1100, and thats with them taking it out and putting it back in, 2 year warranty as well. Like I said- **** MAZDA, I wouldnt go to them for anything but parts, no service![/quote]

I was even wary of them doing the seatbelt recall for me, and that was free! :P

Shane.Trammell 08-05-2002 08:33 AM

ok ill check around here. thanks

tinvestor 08-05-2002 08:43 PM

no pics I have no working scanner now but soon I will have the entire restore, strip to bare metal paint job posted

Shane.Trammell 08-06-2002 08:51 AM

i fixed the transmission.

13BAce 08-06-2002 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Aug 6 2002, 11:51 AM
i fixed the transmission.

How?

Shane.Trammell 08-06-2002 11:42 AM

well i feel like a woman but.. trans fluid helps. it was out

13BAce 08-06-2002 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Aug 6 2002, 02:42 PM
well i feel like a woman but.. trans fluid helps. it was out

That's pretty lame. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif


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