Turbo Ii Motor Into 1st Gen, Price?
08-15-2003, 01:13 AM
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I'm curious on the price and extra parts I would need to drop a turbo II motor and tranny into a 1st gen? I can get the car (minus engine and tranny) for less than $300. So what would the rest of the costs be?
Thanks!
EDIT: Also, which motor should I get? 87-89 or 89-91 turbo ii motor? The 89-91 has an electrical oil pressure sending unit compared to the mechanical sender and is also more expensive. I'm looking to put together a fast little turbo 1st gen to go with my fast little twin turbo 3rd gen.
Thanks!
EDIT: Also, which motor should I get? 87-89 or 89-91 turbo ii motor? The 89-91 has an electrical oil pressure sending unit compared to the mechanical sender and is also more expensive. I'm looking to put together a fast little turbo 1st gen to go with my fast little twin turbo 3rd gen.
08-15-2003, 04:02 AM
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okay so I did some more reading... it looks like the 87-89 motor is my best bet. Also, I'll need the turbo II tranny to hold the HP. The car I am looking at getting comes w/ the motor, but no tranny so I will have the the front cover etc.
I'm not looking to push major horsepower yet, I just want a turboII swap which will later receive the mods to eventually reach ~300whp.
As for the wiring, it looks like I can use turboII wiring and ecu until I want to upgrade (later), correct?
Basically, this is my goal:
Get a turbo II motor into an FB, running and daily drivable at a relatively low cost. Save money for the big upgrades down the road.
I'm not looking to push major horsepower yet, I just want a turboII swap which will later receive the mods to eventually reach ~300whp.
As for the wiring, it looks like I can use turboII wiring and ecu until I want to upgrade (later), correct?
Basically, this is my goal:
Get a turbo II motor into an FB, running and daily drivable at a relatively low cost. Save money for the big upgrades down the road.
08-15-2003, 11:56 AM
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i'm in the middle of the swap right now, i've spent in excess of 4K. thats including the price of the car ($250), so cheap is a relative term. you could probably get it done for cheaper but it will take more time, i opted for a haltec fuel system to simplify wiring so thats where i spent a good amount. don't do a rush job getting everything in there either, you might overlook something really small and it'll bite you in the *** later on. build it right the first time and you won't have to build it again anytime soon.
08-15-2003, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Aug 15 2003, 07:35 AM
the cost of doing a swap like this depends on how much you pay for everything, and since its mostly used it varies. plus the actual list of parts varies too.
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08-15-2003, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer X' date='Aug 15 2003, 05:54 PM
[quote name='j9fd3s' date='Aug 15 2003, 07:35 AM'] the cost of doing a swap like this depends on how much you pay for everything, and since its mostly used it varies. plus the actual list of parts varies too.
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i never really thought about it like that before
08-15-2003, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Aug 15 2003, 07:40 PM
[quote name='Racer X' date='Aug 15 2003, 05:54 PM'] [quote name='j9fd3s' date='Aug 15 2003, 07:35 AM'] the cost of doing a swap like this depends on how much you pay for everything, and since its mostly used it varies. plus the actual list of parts varies too.
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i never really thought about it like that before [/quote]
Neither did I.Now I have a motherload of money sitting in it.Oh well.Boost hard when I get the parts here.
08-16-2003, 01:40 AM
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okay. So far it looks like:
87-88 turboII motor (used JSPEC motor)
Rebuild Kit a possibility (also, street porting templates from a friend if I crack her open)
modified front cover
Turbo II tranny and make a spacer for the mount
Turbo II ECU (for now) and FCD
Turbo II harnesses
Custom Driveshaft
custom exhaust
coils
mass airflow meter
surge tank
clutch, flywheel, etc
basically following TurboFB's guidance from his page ( http://www.geocities.com/chris32472/index.html ) as the start of the project. Eventually, I foresee upgrading to an microtech ecu, bigger turbo and injectors, better fuel pump, better intercooler, etc.
87-88 turboII motor (used JSPEC motor)
Rebuild Kit a possibility (also, street porting templates from a friend if I crack her open)
modified front cover
Turbo II tranny and make a spacer for the mount
Turbo II ECU (for now) and FCD
Turbo II harnesses
Custom Driveshaft
custom exhaust
coils
mass airflow meter
surge tank
clutch, flywheel, etc
basically following TurboFB's guidance from his page ( http://www.geocities.com/chris32472/index.html ) as the start of the project. Eventually, I foresee upgrading to an microtech ecu, bigger turbo and injectors, better fuel pump, better intercooler, etc.
08-16-2003, 02:46 AM
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Okay, one more q. I keep reading that I should use a Haltech right off, instead of a turbo 2 ECU. now, I know this is better for tuning and all... but I assumed w/ the full harness and all, that the turbo 2 ecu should be almost just plug in and go? I'm sure there's something I'm overlooking or something that makes the haltech the 'easier' option...
Someone school me on that please?
Someone school me on that please?