Dysfnctnl85

I can't find a list by you or Setzep.



EDIT: Found yours here.



Will this also be the same for the 13b-RE TT?



I'm confused about the similarities/differences associated with these two swaps: 13b-RE TT and the TII engine.

setzep

My name sure popped up a lot in this thread!



Dysfnctnl85- I believe the 12a and -se crossmembers are the same. You have to drill two new holes in the crossmember in order for the S4 T2 trans to bolt to it. I made a whole thread on how to mod the shifter and mount the trans in the car on the other forum. I think it's in the archives.

Both T2 and 13b-re engines will fit in the car the same, the 13b-re engine is just a little better.



treceb- I believe the 13b is actually 20mm longer than the 12a. Both the 12a and gsl-se engine mounts are the same. They changed the gsl-se crossmember to fit the 13b engine.

Dysfnctnl85

Excellent, you're the go-to guy if I have problems!



I'm printing off the parts list, is there a particular place you would recommend that would make this scavenging easier?

Racer X

13B-RE TT is a cosmo motor.The swap is easy if you want to run a Stock S5 T2 EFI system.Otherwise you have to run a standalone system.

Racer X

Me and Df know pretty much the same as you now.I'm just too lazy to give the info out this time.I did it every other time someone asks about a swap.Your turn for once.



BTW:Its 10mm longer than a 12a not 20mm

treceb

j/k.

for some reason i couldnt think of teh word crossmember yesterday...



by the way it looks like i might also go turbo on the next first gen i get since i found a cheap engine, or one for a low price, with ecu, harness and tranny. i just need to find the car now.

Dysfnctnl85

13B-RE TT is a cosmo motor.The swap is easy if you want to run a Stock S5 T2 EFI system.Otherwise you have to run a standalone system. [/quote]

Right I understand the motor differences I just didn't know if engine placement and such was different, but thanks to you guys I understand that now!



Another question, why can't I use the EFI from the engine I buy, why do I need to use the S5 TII EFI?

setzep

Racer x- It's been my turn to give out info for as long as I've been on the forums To be honest most of the time I just pass by the "I wanta swap in a T2 engine to my 1st gen" threads because someone always shows them the way anyways. I don't know any more then a lot of the people here it's just that I've done it all instead of read it all

Are you sure it's only a 10mm longer engine? I thought it the 13b rotors were 10mm wider therefor making the engine 20mm longer than the 12a?



Dysfnctnl85- He's just saying if you do a "simple" T2 swap you can run the T2 computer to control a T2 engine. If you get the 13b-re I hear it's a lot more difficult to use the 13b-re computer to run it. To be honest, it doesn't matter what enigne you run you SHOULD run a adjustable computer either way.

setzep

Just went out to the garage and took some measurements. A 13b housing is 3/8" wider than a 12a housing. Looks like the 13b is 20mm longer than a 12a

Racer X

I thought it says on swap pages to drill the 12a crossmember hole 10mm forward of the stockers when doing a SE swap tho? Oh well live and learn. My T2 will own the local FD here next summer either way.