sa22c-500195
03-28-2006, 09:34 AM
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is sa22c-500195 or for that matter JM1FB3326F0897949, which were on the first and last boats of rx7's, worth fixing? i estimate it would cost close to 10k to restore an sa/fb to stock (3-4k in paint, 3k in parts, 1k for powder coating, plating, etc etc).
i figure its not quite worth doing right now, maybe a properly restored car gets 8k?
what do you guys think. obviously for the right car the value will go up
i figure its not quite worth doing right now, maybe a properly restored car gets 8k?
what do you guys think. obviously for the right car the value will go up
03-28-2006, 12:04 PM
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Keep it around for a while and see. Even restored 240Zs, which right now are far more collectible than the '7, don't sell for more than $20k at the very most, and that'll take $50k into the car to restore it to that level. (ruff figgers obviously) Restoring Japanese cars just doesn't seem to be worth it at all in North America. Now, sending it to Japan, might be an idea. Worth lots more there.
03-28-2006, 09:49 PM
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Similiar questions, like in this post, have surfaced recently. Should I buy or restore this Rx7? If you have the money go for it. One thing many people are overlooking is one that shouldn't be overlooked,is the fact that these cars are rotary powered. As the number of first generation Rx7s drops, the remaining Rx7s value will rise more and more. First generation Rx7s will surpass most of the vintage Japanese imports in value.
Something like a total of 2 million rotary powered cars have been sold worldwide. 800,000+ Rx7s sold in the U.S. Around 374,000+ of these Rx7s were first generation Rx7s (some car companies sell and deliver close to half or 3/4s that number in one year for just one specific model), Most of the 375K gen 1 U.S. Rx7s were powered by the 12A. The rest of the 800,000 Rx7s sold in the U.S. have 13Bs, divided into many variations of that engine. So the 13B powered Rx7s out numbers the 12A Rx7s. What other Mazda's used the 12A, add those numbers into the mix and the 12A will still be out numbered by the 13B. So eventually any first generation 12A Rx7 in excellent shape (original/stock) will be worth good money.
One Car, One engine + Limited supply = big bucks down the road
Something like a total of 2 million rotary powered cars have been sold worldwide. 800,000+ Rx7s sold in the U.S. Around 374,000+ of these Rx7s were first generation Rx7s (some car companies sell and deliver close to half or 3/4s that number in one year for just one specific model), Most of the 375K gen 1 U.S. Rx7s were powered by the 12A. The rest of the 800,000 Rx7s sold in the U.S. have 13Bs, divided into many variations of that engine. So the 13B powered Rx7s out numbers the 12A Rx7s. What other Mazda's used the 12A, add those numbers into the mix and the 12A will still be out numbered by the 13B. So eventually any first generation 12A Rx7 in excellent shape (original/stock) will be worth good money.
One Car, One engine + Limited supply = big bucks down the road
03-28-2006, 09:52 PM
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Well, considering the last year for the FB's just went into classic status, I think it will take maybe another 10 years, maybe less than that. 79 is now 27 years old, so maybe another 8 years, and it would be worth alot more than right now. Plus finding any FB is not hard to do right now. I see more Vette Stingrays on the road than I do FB's.
It just seems hard to find alot of the original stuff, unless you go to victoriabritish.
It just seems hard to find alot of the original stuff, unless you go to victoriabritish.
03-29-2006, 09:42 AM
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The market for the old musclecars is the old dudes that wanted them (or had them) back in the day, and now they have successful businesses or whatever and are buying them again out of nostalgia. Then for the really big-money cars, the Hemi Cudas and so on, other collecters will sometimes get in on it. The new generation of import guys, who in thirty years could become to imports what the aforementioned old dudes are now to musclecars, are almost all too young for the 1st gen '7s to even be in their circle of awareness. I can definitely see the FDs being worth a pile in thirty years, but I bet Integra Type Rs will be worth even more.
03-29-2006, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ Rotor' post='810862' date='Mar 29 2006, 07:42 AM
The market for the old musclecars is the old dudes that wanted them (or had them) back in the day, and now they have successful businesses or whatever and are buying them again out of nostalgia. Then for the really big-money cars, the Hemi Cudas and so on, other collecters will sometimes get in on it. The new generation of import guys, who in thirty years could become to imports what the aforementioned old dudes are now to musclecars, are almost all too young for the 1st gen '7s to even be in their circle of awareness. I can definitely see the FDs being worth a pile in thirty years, but I bet Integra Type Rs will be worth even more.
yeah we had em in high school.
03-29-2006, 10:22 AM
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I think the musclecar market is grossly over-inflated in the pricing department. Collectible car auctions like Barrett-Jackson, Petersen's, Silvers, Russo-Steele create a platform for these old guys with too much money to pay way too much for cars from thier youth. In turn this overpriced market makes everyone with a couple of rusted out junkers from the 50's in the backyard think they are sitting on a gold mine, it encourages the whole market to jack up the pricing across the board.
In the same sense, it seems strange that the Japanese imports would have the same kind of effect once thier age and rarity becomes that of the classic American, European muscle cars and such. Is a flawless sa going to roll across the block at one of these auctions and sell for 100,000? who knows, I think it would be a stretch though. Might need to take another 20 years for the value to really get up there.
In the same sense, it seems strange that the Japanese imports would have the same kind of effect once thier age and rarity becomes that of the classic American, European muscle cars and such. Is a flawless sa going to roll across the block at one of these auctions and sell for 100,000? who knows, I think it would be a stretch though. Might need to take another 20 years for the value to really get up there.