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Old 12-17-2003, 10:06 PM
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just wondering what all the fuss is about removing the nest, what was your experience in doing the mod.
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Old 12-18-2003, 01:55 AM
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there is no gain at all.... the main reson it is done is just to get rid of that god afull thing!!!!! and it frees up alot of space..... and it alows for the removal of the air pump and acv and ectra....
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Old 12-18-2003, 06:29 PM
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Its not so much about gains, but getting rid of all the useless tubing and **** in the engine bay.
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Old 12-19-2003, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by drifter' date='Dec 18 2003, 04:29 PM
Its not so much about gains, but getting rid of all the useless tubing and **** in the engine bay.
Its to help making repairs less of a headache.I know when I pulled mine it made things so much easier.
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Old 12-19-2003, 01:07 AM
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By not having it I was able to tear down the whole thing in 6 hours by myself and no lifting tools. I can get it back in and running in 4. instead of 12hrs with the "nest".
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Old 12-20-2003, 12:06 PM
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While we are on this subject;

Does removing this junk have any effect on the function of the Cruise Control.

Before I removed it and the other stuff my Cruise worked OK.



New Pinnaple Racing 12A Streetport Motor that I installed this week

Now for some oddly reason (NO Workie).

Any clues or suggestions as to what to look for???

Thanks

Steve



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Pinnaple Racing StreetPort 12A Engine w/50 Miles on it. Can't wait to Break it in!!!!

RB Complete Exaust

RB Complete Holley Set-Up

Full Pillar W/Nordskog Digital Gauges

Too many other goodies to bore ya with.
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Old 12-20-2003, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sgieldon' date='Dec 20 2003, 10:06 AM
While we are on this subject;

Does removing this junk have any effect on the function of the Cruise Control.

Before I removed it and the other stuff my Cruise worked OK.



New Pinnaple Racing 12A Streetport Motor that I installed this week

Now for some oddly reason (NO Workie).

Any clues or suggestions as to what to look for???

Thanks

Steve



84GSL (Cherry)

Pinnaple Racing StreetPort 12A Engine w/50 Miles on it. Can't wait to Break it in!!!!

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RB Complete Holley Set-Up

Full Pillar W/Nordskog Digital Gauges

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Holy **** steve.I was starting to wonder what happened to you after your motor blew.So you bought another motor or rebuilt the old one?I doubt the rats nest has any effect on your cruise.Isn't the crusie activated off just a regular electric motor?Mine was pulled on my 83 before I bought it.
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Old 12-21-2003, 02:02 AM
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I couldn't see the cruise control being vacumm actuated, its just holding the throttle cable in a constant position really. (time to grab the ol' workshop manual).



My cruise control never worked. (either that or I could never work it)
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Cruise control systems....



TROUBLESHOOTING



-->Cruise control doesn't work

Blown fuse. Faulty main switch, control switch, speed sensor or actuator. Malfunction of stop, clutch or inhibitor switch. Bad ground or wiring.



-->Speed setting can't be cancelled

Faulty control unit. Malfunction of stop, clutch or inhibitor switch.



-->Set speed is not held

Faulty actuator, control unit or speed sensor. Actuator contol cable malfunction.



-->System doesn't engage immediately

Faulty actuator, control switch or unit. Actuator contol cable malfunction.



TESTING



1) Suppport vehicle with drive wheels off of ground. Turn ignition switch ON. With control unit connected, connect negative probe of voltmeter to terminal M of control unit connector. Refer to CRUISE CONTROL UNIT CONNECTOR DIAGRAM. Test terminals D through N. See CRUISE CONTROL UNIT TESTING table. If values do not match those specified, check appropriate circuits. If values do not match those specified, go to next step.



2) Start engine and switch cruise control main switch ON. Increase speed until 30mph is indicated and push cruise control SET button. Connect negative probe of voltmeter to terminal M of control unit connector. Test terminals A through C. See CRUISE CONTROL UNIT TESTING table. If values do not match those specified, check appropriate circuits.



CRUISE CONTROL UNIT CONNECTOR DIAGRAM

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| M | K | I |----| E | C | A |

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| N | L | J | H | F | D | B |

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CRUISE CONTROL UNIT TESTING TABLE

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| Terminal | Action | Voltage |

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|... F ...|... At All times...........................|... 12 volts ...|

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|... I ...|... Push SET button ...................|... 0 volts .....|

|... I ...|... Release SET button ...............|... 8 volts .....|

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|... J ...|... Push COAST button ...............|... 0 volts .....|

|... J ...|... Release COAST button ...........|... 8 volts .....|

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|... K ...|... Push RESUME button .............|... 0 volts .....|

|... K ...|... Release RESUME button .........|... 8 volts .....|

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|... E ...|... Push brake or clutch pedal.......|... 12 volts ...|

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|... N ...|... Push brake pedal...................|... 12 volts ...|

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|... D ...|... Shift to P or N (auto trans)......|... 0 volts .....|

|... D ...|... Shift to D or R (auto trans)......|... 12 volts ...|

__________________________________________________ __

|... B ...|... Push SET button....................|... 0 volts .....|

|... B ...|... Release SET button................|... 12 volts ...|

__________________________________________________ __

|... A ...|... Push COAST button ...............|... 0 volts .....|

|... A ...|... Release COAST button ...........|... 12 volts ...|

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|... C ...|... Push clutch pedal ..................|... 0 volts ....|

|... C ...|... Release clutch pedal ..............|... 12 volts ...|

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|... H ...|... Engine off .............................|... 0-9 volts..|

|... H ...| Remove speedo cable from trans.|..................|

|... H ...|... Ignition ON.............................|.................. |

|... H ...|... Rotate cable by hand..............|..................|

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THis took ages to type, so I hope it helps!
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Old 12-21-2003, 12:06 PM
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Hey RacerX;

Yes I had to put alot of things on hold till I gots the new motor back from Pinnaple Racing.

Man they did a great job with it. Everything is brand new and I had them do all the Oil mods and install a RB Clutch setup w/ this Motor.

I can't wait till it's broke in. It's real hard not to want to get on it. But my lack of patience killed the last one.

This time I went with the Street Port only and it sure Idles much smoother than when I did the Bridgeport on the last one.

This one cost me $3800.00US so it better last.



Anyhew I hope your ongoing never happy until you reach 600HP is going well!!!



Thankyou everyone for you help on the Cruise Control situation.

It was not a life threatning deal, but I think with this info I can finnaly get it figured out.

I bought a complete setup from Morgan and will remove mine and see if it works???



Just an F.Y.I.

If any of ya's are looking at the Full Gauge Pillar setup from Lo-Tek Engineering,

(Buy It)

It fit perfect and Holds either 2" or 2-1/16 Gauges.

Took 3 days to get to my doorstep, 10mins to install. Cost $50.98 shipping included.

Thanks again everybody for your help.

steve

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