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inanimate_object 12-13-2006 04:34 PM

I think you're forgetting about how camber will be affected there?

bwaits 12-13-2006 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by inanimate_object' post='849013' date='Dec 13 2006, 02:34 PM

I think you're forgetting about how camber will be affected there?



Not that I can wrap my head around at the moment. Let's discuss though, what are you seeing?



-billy

treceb 12-13-2006 07:11 PM

is that the car from orlando area? i was in florida nad wanted to take a look at it but itd be far to finish it up from jersey...

bwaits 12-13-2006 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by treceb' post='849049' date='Dec 13 2006, 05:11 PM

is that the car from orlando area? i was in florida nad wanted to take a look at it but itd be far to finish it up from jersey...



It is.



-billy

inanimate_object 12-14-2006 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by bwaits' post='849046' date='Dec 14 2006, 01:02 AM

Not that I can wrap my head around at the moment. Let's discuss though, what are you seeing?



-billy

Maybe I read your explanation wrong but this is what I think you're saying:

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first one is standard with standard scrub radius, second is the higher offset wheels and the third is my interpretation of your solution https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif - it looks like the scrub radius is helped alright (or is it?).

bwaits 12-14-2006 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by inanimate_object' post='849082' date='Dec 14 2006, 04:09 AM

Maybe I read your explanation wrong but this is what I think you're saying:

[attachment=40413:attachment]

first one is standard with standard scrub radius, second is the higher offset wheels and the third is my interpretation of your solution https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif - it looks like the scrub radius is helped alright (or is it?).



I think your interpreted backwards to what I meant. May have been my explanation.



I have attached a drawing. The 10 Deg. King Pin is from memory and is a rough estimate. Drawings show no camber at the wheel. Obviously you would dial in negative camber but it was easier to draw.



First drawing is stock.

Second drawing is after the mod of 5 Deg. greater king pin inclination.

Third drawing is after the mod. With the strut mounted 5 more degrees negative to bring the king pin back to zero.



-billy

bwaits 12-14-2006 01:17 PM

This drawing shows center line of strut tubes and center line of wheels to calculate scrub radius.

Left image is stock king pin inclination and zero camber on wheels.

Right image is modified king pin inclination, greater angle on strut tube.



You can see the scrub radius will decrease. You would be required to move the top mount inboard (Camber Plates) in order to get the positive camber out of the wheels. The variable in all of this is how much can you move inboard of the stock strut tower. This will decide how much angle you can add to the spindle and still be able to dial in a bit of negative camber.



-billy

j9fd3s 12-14-2006 02:35 PM

all kinds of trickery there. i know back in the pro7 days, the cars ran better at -6 camber (stock wheels, 195 spec tires), but the camber plates only give you -4. so people were bending the body, you can change the struts, the factory solution was to make the lower arm ajustable....

bwaits 12-14-2006 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='849124' date='Dec 14 2006, 12:35 PM

the factory solution was to make the lower arm ajustable....



This is how we plan to tackle the FB struts in the Rx2's and rx3's.



-billy

j9fd3s 12-14-2006 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by bwaits' post='849142' date='Dec 14 2006, 03:34 PM

This is how we plan to tackle the FB struts in the Rx2's and rx3's.



-billy



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.gif trick stuff! i'm pictureing something that looks like the fd's lower control arm


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