It's no boosted vert but we will have fun with the buildup https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif Still have to go pick it up. I will post some more pics when we get it in the shop. We also have a pool going on whether or not it will make it to deals gap in '07. The winner gets a cookie.



-billy

thats kewl!

Billy,



Really cool looking 1st gen! And I'm sure that I'll be in contact with you for a few things concerning that boosted vert you mentioned. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif I'm going to need some parts and I plan on getting them from you. Just thought I'd give you a heads up.



Zach

Deals Gap should be fun this year

Are those stock rims on a widebody? Or am I seeing things again? I like the widebody better. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif

I agree. I can't wait. I have juggled some stuff around and should make it to your gathering as well.





Yea, stock wheels on it at the moment. They will not be for long though https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif I have picked the wheels out. From my calcs they will have 3" lips in the front and 4" lips in the rear. Old School!

Billy, thanks for the compliments. I'm really happy with my find.



Those rims are sick!! Who makes them?



Zach

I've always wondered what you guys running those wheels do about bearing stress and scrub radius and other niggly things? Just put up with it?

yeah, basically. the racers used different struts, but i dont know about scrub radius

Scrub Radius can be changed if need be. It would take some work.



Cut the strut tube from the cast spindle. Bore a hole in the cast spindle for a replacement strut tube changing the angle of the hole. The angle change is to add to the "steering axis inclination". This will mean the strut top will need to be moved inboard (As if adding negative camber) to bring the camber setting to where they used to be. Now your imaginary point at road level drawn through the steering axis inclination will be further outboard. Bringing it closer to the centerline of the new wheels...............Or you can just live with it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif



-billy

I think you're forgetting about how camber will be affected there?

Not that I can wrap my head around at the moment. Let's discuss though, what are you seeing?



-billy

is that the car from orlando area? i was in florida nad wanted to take a look at it but itd be far to finish it up from jersey...

It is.



-billy

Maybe I read your explanation wrong but this is what I think you're saying:

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first one is standard with standard scrub radius, second is the higher offset wheels and the third is my interpretation of your solution https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif - it looks like the scrub radius is helped alright (or is it?).

I think your interpreted backwards to what I meant. May have been my explanation.



I have attached a drawing. The 10 Deg. King Pin is from memory and is a rough estimate. Drawings show no camber at the wheel. Obviously you would dial in negative camber but it was easier to draw.



First drawing is stock.

Second drawing is after the mod of 5 Deg. greater king pin inclination.

Third drawing is after the mod. With the strut mounted 5 more degrees negative to bring the king pin back to zero.



-billy

This drawing shows center line of strut tubes and center line of wheels to calculate scrub radius.

Left image is stock king pin inclination and zero camber on wheels.

Right image is modified king pin inclination, greater angle on strut tube.



You can see the scrub radius will decrease. You would be required to move the top mount inboard (Camber Plates) in order to get the positive camber out of the wheels. The variable in all of this is how much can you move inboard of the stock strut tower. This will decide how much angle you can add to the spindle and still be able to dial in a bit of negative camber.



-billy

all kinds of trickery there. i know back in the pro7 days, the cars ran better at -6 camber (stock wheels, 195 spec tires), but the camber plates only give you -4. so people were bending the body, you can change the struts, the factory solution was to make the lower arm ajustable....

This is how we plan to tackle the FB struts in the Rx2's and rx3's.



-billy

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.gif trick stuff! i'm pictureing something that looks like the fd's lower control arm

Did you get the package I sent?

I did. fogot to PM the thank you.



-billy

dude good luck on ur project so far it looks awsome

Ah right, so the idea is to alter the spindle rather than the strut angle - that would work, but I'm sure it's a hell of a lot easier said than done - I'd be more tempted to make new uprights than to faff about with cast stuff.

Never said it was an easy solution https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif It would correct the scrub though. Easier would be a longer lower control arm but I hate changing track to fix scrub.



Truck driver is picking the car up Sunday morning. I will probably spend most of Monday staring at it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif



-billy

She is here!

[pops champagne cork]

nice car i love the 1stgens wide body good luck in with that proyect



those are the same rims my saa22 had well im only unsing two of then now .

i got 5 lugs on rear too bad couse i love those rims



where can i find the center caps for them im missing one !

After the first day of dis-assembly



http://www.vintagerotaries.org/index.php?a...=post&id=15

http://www.vintagerotaries.org/index.php?a...=post&id=16

I wanted to bump this thread and see how everything was going https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.gif.

Slowly........





I have one more pic in the thread over at vintagerotaries.org, it was a bad pic though. I will take a few more this week.



-billy