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#12
I'd like to get somewhere in the 225-250whp range, and 325 with the juice. Loud doesn't bother me, and screw the neighbors This isn't going to be my daily driver, and a fairly wild street build is fine by me. I do want it to be "liveable" on the street though, and able to run on 93 octane. Do you think this is possible with the 12a?
I was considering that it may be best to just use the 12a for now, at least for this year and maybe next year too, until I could afford to build a nice motor and drop it in.
I was considering that it may be best to just use the 12a for now, at least for this year and maybe next year too, until I could afford to build a nice motor and drop it in.
#13
with the power your looking for, turbo is the way. to have that power NA the idle would be erratic and the car wouldnt be great on the street...
a nice easy way to get that power would be to turbo the 12a. but fabrication would have to be done. i never heard of anyone making a turbo manifold for the 12a. so you would have to make one, or have one made. then a downpipe would have to be made. and intercooler set up. now your decision would be to stay carbed or convert to fuel injection.
if you were to stay carb, you would need a holley 600 and racing beat intake manifold. both you can get pretty cheap. and they make carb hats for the holley so you can turbo it, but they are fairly easy to make also. the problem is tuning it. you would have to find somone whos knows rotary well, plus holley tuning.
a little more exspensive way is to convert it to fuel intection. you would need a custom intake manifold with basically any throttle body (one from a mustang would work great) 2 fuel rails made and fit to your custom manifold, and 4 injectors. most likely two 550cc for your primary, and everyones favorite...two 1600cc for your secondary you could keep the distributor set up but i would convert it to the 83-85 distibutor. much better...the fuel pump would have to be changed to a fuel injection style pump. get it form jegs, great deals on them. or eBay. and a fuel pressure regulator for fuel injection.
carbs usually need around 6psi of fuel. so the fuel pump and regulator are only made to handle and adjust to that, depending on the car. fuel injection will need around 30-40, depending on your set-up. so getting the right regulator and fuel pump is very important.
now alls you would need is a fuel only ECU. or a full stand alone. the cheapest way would be a megasquirt. i seen them on ebay all the time pre-assembled for 200 or a little more. wire it all up...
and get it tuned...
whats your budget looking like? that will be your main decision factor...
a nice easy way to get that power would be to turbo the 12a. but fabrication would have to be done. i never heard of anyone making a turbo manifold for the 12a. so you would have to make one, or have one made. then a downpipe would have to be made. and intercooler set up. now your decision would be to stay carbed or convert to fuel injection.
if you were to stay carb, you would need a holley 600 and racing beat intake manifold. both you can get pretty cheap. and they make carb hats for the holley so you can turbo it, but they are fairly easy to make also. the problem is tuning it. you would have to find somone whos knows rotary well, plus holley tuning.
a little more exspensive way is to convert it to fuel intection. you would need a custom intake manifold with basically any throttle body (one from a mustang would work great) 2 fuel rails made and fit to your custom manifold, and 4 injectors. most likely two 550cc for your primary, and everyones favorite...two 1600cc for your secondary you could keep the distributor set up but i would convert it to the 83-85 distibutor. much better...the fuel pump would have to be changed to a fuel injection style pump. get it form jegs, great deals on them. or eBay. and a fuel pressure regulator for fuel injection.
carbs usually need around 6psi of fuel. so the fuel pump and regulator are only made to handle and adjust to that, depending on the car. fuel injection will need around 30-40, depending on your set-up. so getting the right regulator and fuel pump is very important.
now alls you would need is a fuel only ECU. or a full stand alone. the cheapest way would be a megasquirt. i seen them on ebay all the time pre-assembled for 200 or a little more. wire it all up...
and get it tuned...
whats your budget looking like? that will be your main decision factor...
#14
Well for right now my budget is looking like: "Buy car, get it running." I won't be modding it until at least this summer or fall. For this year I'll probably lightly mod the 12a, like a holley manifold and header, I have a nitrous system laying around so maybe a 50 shot for a little extra "oomph".
But I won't bother boosting the car until I can go all out and build a pretty wild 13b. If my budget won't allow that this year, I might pull the 12a and get it ported and do a rebuild so it'll be quicker next spring when the world thaws lol.
I'm definately not looking at this car as a "get it done now" car. I figure I'll do some light mods this year to make it a little quicker, then maybe do the bodywork and paint this winter, and hopefully by spring have a refreshed motor to drop into it, either the 12a rebuilt, holley'd, headered, nitroused and ported, or a boosted 13b (but most likely the former).
Thanks a lot for your input and ideas. I must say you guys ave already been 10x as helpful as 240sx guys (I was looking at a 240sx before I found this car).
But I won't bother boosting the car until I can go all out and build a pretty wild 13b. If my budget won't allow that this year, I might pull the 12a and get it ported and do a rebuild so it'll be quicker next spring when the world thaws lol.
I'm definately not looking at this car as a "get it done now" car. I figure I'll do some light mods this year to make it a little quicker, then maybe do the bodywork and paint this winter, and hopefully by spring have a refreshed motor to drop into it, either the 12a rebuilt, holley'd, headered, nitroused and ported, or a boosted 13b (but most likely the former).
Thanks a lot for your input and ideas. I must say you guys ave already been 10x as helpful as 240sx guys (I was looking at a 240sx before I found this car).
#15
glad i can help, 240's are good. but i have found them people to be kinda like the honda guys... a bunch of cocky *** holes with no respect for cars. most rotary people you'll find have a comradary. if im driving one of my rx7s around and see another, they'll usually flip there headlights or wave.
the only thing i can compare it to is riding a bike. when you see someone else on two wheels, stick your hand out to say whats up. when i ride in my brothers civic...all i see is people grilling or challenging. same thing in my boys cars.
welcome to the comunity or:
No Pistons, No Problems!
the only thing i can compare it to is riding a bike. when you see someone else on two wheels, stick your hand out to say whats up. when i ride in my brothers civic...all i see is people grilling or challenging. same thing in my boys cars.
welcome to the comunity or:
No Pistons, No Problems!
#17
Originally Posted by TheRX7Project' post='899639' date='Apr 30 2008, 02:22 PM
I'd like to have something with tunability so the stock ECU won't cut it, but I must admit the Megasquirt scares me a little. Anyone have a guide for running a MS-powered rotary? Anything else I should know about the swap?
Any help you can give me is greatly appreciated.
Any help you can give me is greatly appreciated.
actually these days the stock ecu IS tunable, www.pocketlogger.com which is damn cool.
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