1st Generation Specific 1979-1985 Discussion

Just Got A 1st Gen

Old 02-09-2004, 08:28 PM
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well I just bought a 85 GL... and an 85 GLS... the GL is a parts car. not that I need the parts.. but what should I do first to this car performance wise. I am blind when it comes to rotary. my other car is an SVT contour. I was thinking about doing an LS1 swap soon but I dont know yet. I kinda want to play around with the rotary... any tips or anything I should look for.. I will get pics as soon as I can. by the way if anybody wants any parts of my parts car I am selling them... just tell me what you need and I will see what i can do for ya
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Old 02-09-2004, 08:30 PM
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You should read a lot first.

Go to the sticky thread at the top and browse the links.
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Old 02-13-2004, 10:37 PM
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Only bad thing is that a lot of links in the stickies are old and don't work
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Old 02-15-2004, 01:11 AM
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If it runs I would drive it and enjoy
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Originally Posted by skud_dusty' date='Feb 14 2004, 12:37 PM
Only bad thing is that a lot of links in the stickies are old and don't work
really? I will give it a clean out in a few days.
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Originally Posted by drifter' date='Feb 15 2004, 06:00 PM
really? I will give it a clean out in a few days.
Yeah Mr.Mod get to work.
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Old 02-17-2004, 11:12 AM
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can somebody help me out and tell me what s5 s4 fb and all that stuff means. I am clueless... I have never owned a car like this and I have no idea whats going on really... also can anybody tell me some of the website for performance parts and the gauges and stuff that people are getting....thank you
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Originally Posted by Static' date='Feb 17 2004, 09:12 AM
can somebody help me out and tell me what s5 s4 fb and all that stuff means. I am clueless... I have never owned a car like this and I have no idea whats going on really... also can anybody tell me some of the website for performance parts and the gauges and stuff that people are getting....thank you
S[x] stands for series x, where x is the series number.



it breaks down like this:



1st gen (this is the part where i'm least likely to make mistakes):

S1: '79-'80 - old school looking taillights, thermal reactor, different bumpers and trim, points ignition system

S2: '81-'83 - updated body parts (tails, bumpers, trim), electronic ignition, catalytic converters (my preference for the 12a models)

S3: '84-'85 - essentially the same in 12a trim as the S2 models. S3 introduced the GSL-SE model with the fuel injected 6-port 13b, which is the holy grail of the 1st gens.



2nd gen:

S4: '86-'88 - 145hp in NA trim, 180ish in turbo. 7krpm redline.

S5: '89-'91 - 160hp in NA, 200hp in turbo. 8k rpm redline.



3rd gen:

S6 - '93-'95(?) - 255hp in all trims, i know very little about this model aside from the basic rotary rhetoric.



each generation has a F[B/C/D] chassis designation, with the exception of the first gen which has two designations...



S1: SA

S2-3: FB

S4-5: FC

S6: FD



hope that info helps...



as for what you should do with it... well that all depends. do you want to mod the **** out of it, or just have a little fun?



i'd start with a full racing beat exhaust system. they're a bit expensive, but they pretty much can't be beat. should get you throwing down about 100-105hp to the road. i've heard claims of 115hp at the pavement with just the RB exhaust installed, but i have my doubts about that claim.



these cars are excellent learning platforms for performance driving. have fun and good luck!
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thanks man that helps about so much....



I was over at racingbeat.com earlier and I tried to load up exhaust systems and it wouldnt work.. I was hoping to look at them... I want to do a full exhaust including headers and all and then I was thinking about the weber carbs... but like I said I am still really new at this and if you guys think I am about to do something really stupid then make sure to let me know
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IIRC, a new 12a racingbeat exhaust system will run something like $500ish. you could probably find one cheaper if you scour the classifieds.



you may also want to look into a paul yaw carb. he does application-specific mods to the stock nikki carb. generally, yaw carbs are less expensive than a weber setup... regardless of how you upgrade your induction, it'd be a great idea (in fact, pretty much necessary) to upgrade your fuel system.

http://www.yawpower.com/racecarb.html
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