What would the benefits of a 12a turbo over a 13b-RE/S4 TII(or S5) engine? I am just trying to weigh out some options and what would be the simplest thing to do, while still having the reliability factor, and of course power factor. Anyone on this board that runs a 12a turbo? Anything good or bad?



And the 12a turbo engines from rotaryshack.com, I can't tell if it is carbed or FI? Anyone know off hand? And is there any other place that sells them?



If I am not mistaken, the 12a turbo's came out of certain JDM FB's?



Thanks

Justin

dont have to replace the front cover

A buddy of mine has the 12a turbo in his GSL-SE. It is a fuel injected motor and will actually run perfect with the factory computer and wire harness. They have a really small turbo on them that restricts the power quite a bit, but I have heard of people upgrading them to an S4 or S5 turbo. We also have a 13B-RE installed and running in a GSL-SE as well with a Microtech computer.

[quote name='RE87FC' date='Aug 25 2005, 04:31 PM']A buddy of mine has the 12a turbo in his GSL-SE. It is a fuel injected motor and will actually run perfect with the factory computer and wire harness. They have a really small turbo on them that restricts the power quite a bit, but I have heard of people upgrading them to an S4 or S5 turbo. We also have a 13B-RE installed and running in a GSL-SE as well with a Microtech computer.


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Cool, thanks alot for the info. I would just use the factory turbo for the time being, but would upgrade to something bigger, just not sure what yet. I will probably start on the swap in the winter, ONCE I buy the car. LOL



Thanks alot, and thanks nopenis.

no prob jeepy

The parts are cheaper too.

the 12a turbo is the japanese equivalent of the gsl-se 13b. they got the turbo cause its cool, we got the na motor cause we complain when it breaks. performance between the 2 stock setups is not all that different, of course the turbo is more moddable

What would the hp and lb-ft of the 12a turbo be? I know the 13b GSL-SE engine is somewhat impressive. I am just not as familiar with the 12a's, let alone a turbo slapped onto it.

[quote name='rowtareh' date='Aug 27 2005, 01:23 PM']What would the hp and lb-ft of the 12a turbo be? I know the 13b GSL-SE engine is somewhat impressive. I am just not as familiar with the 12a's, let alone a turbo slapped onto it.


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its rated at 165jis which is like 150ish saehp, gsl-se is 135hp sae.

[quote name='j9fd3s' date='Aug 27 2005, 06:19 PM']its rated at 165jis which is like 150ish saehp, gsl-se is 135hp sae.


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Oh, that does not seem to bad at all. I just wanted something different than what everybody else is swapping in. Thanks Mike