Heist Of The Mrccfl
12-21-2004, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JerryLH3' date='Dec 22 2004, 12:30 AM
that's the dictator seats
12-22-2004, 11:32 AM
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Is this or could this be a place to post without modertion ? ? ? WTF cussing allowed ? ? ? I can't believe it ! ! ! !
12-22-2004, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Dec 21 2004, 10:39 PM
I never said they stole the money. But again, diverting funds behind the presidents back, wether you agree with him or not, is just wrong. No matter how much good you think your doing.
There was no diverting funds behind Ian back. The funds were diverted in agreement with all of the board members in *Ian's absence*.
It was all spelled out on the Officers list at the time, and if he had bothered to read it he would have seen it.
The reason it was done is because money was going into the clubs supposed account and there was no one to verify anything about it. So people would send in a check for membership, and no word would come from Ian, then that person would complain that they didn't have their sticker, card, shirt, etc. We had no way of knowing that they had even sent money in, because Ian was the only one with access to the account and he was gone. Hence Ken took over the funds and things have been working fine ever since then, that is until Ian came back and started this mess.
Sorry to kick a dead horse here, I just want to get the facts straight for eveyone.
Jon
12-23-2004, 09:52 AM
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Whoa....all these posts in 2 days. I guess people prefer saying something knowing it will get posted instead of *hoping* it will get posted.
12-23-2004, 10:30 AM
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Not to rehash this stuff, but I feel the need to clarify further.
Jim, I understand all of what you said and I could see how/why you do because you said it yourself, you can only comment on what *you* see.
What Jerry and Jon were trying to point out was what went on without anyones knowledge.
Also to emphasize...NO ONE has ever disputed what Ian has done for the club, we all know he has done wonders compared to what it once was. We've ALL stated this before. The problem the officers have with Ian, is his methods and actions of doing things as of late. Yes some how it got blown up into a big ordeal.
If he wants the club to be a *dictatorship* fine, structure it so that it can function that way. But to have it being sold as a democracy, structured as a democracy, and operated as such in the past, then on a whim turn around and do the opposite is hypocritical.
Facts!!
Ian was absent due to illness....none of the officers knew of this until his return. Ian says he was always here, but as pointed out no form communication, especially when important questions were being asked (funds related), was coming from Ian...I call that being absent.
The officers took upon themselves to act instead of to wait for an anwer.
All money that came in was UNTOUCHED, all events were done out peoples own pockets.
There is more but I think Ive gone on long enough, as of now Im still an officer, that leaves Ian, Jerry (until the 1st), Karen, Ron (I haven't seen anyting stating otherwise) and myself. Gone is Christi, Jack (Ians doing), Paul and Ken (thier choice). With Jerry leaving that will only be 2, but being that Ian has asked/told Ron and myself to resign, I guess that will leave Ian and his significant other to run and control the club and its members money. If no one can see a problem with that then its ok. I however, do see a problem with it and therefore will not have any part, as that is not what I signed up for.
Jim, I understand all of what you said and I could see how/why you do because you said it yourself, you can only comment on what *you* see.
What Jerry and Jon were trying to point out was what went on without anyones knowledge.
Also to emphasize...NO ONE has ever disputed what Ian has done for the club, we all know he has done wonders compared to what it once was. We've ALL stated this before. The problem the officers have with Ian, is his methods and actions of doing things as of late. Yes some how it got blown up into a big ordeal.
If he wants the club to be a *dictatorship* fine, structure it so that it can function that way. But to have it being sold as a democracy, structured as a democracy, and operated as such in the past, then on a whim turn around and do the opposite is hypocritical.
Facts!!
Ian was absent due to illness....none of the officers knew of this until his return. Ian says he was always here, but as pointed out no form communication, especially when important questions were being asked (funds related), was coming from Ian...I call that being absent.
The officers took upon themselves to act instead of to wait for an anwer.
All money that came in was UNTOUCHED, all events were done out peoples own pockets.
There is more but I think Ive gone on long enough, as of now Im still an officer, that leaves Ian, Jerry (until the 1st), Karen, Ron (I haven't seen anyting stating otherwise) and myself. Gone is Christi, Jack (Ians doing), Paul and Ken (thier choice). With Jerry leaving that will only be 2, but being that Ian has asked/told Ron and myself to resign, I guess that will leave Ian and his significant other to run and control the club and its members money. If no one can see a problem with that then its ok. I however, do see a problem with it and therefore will not have any part, as that is not what I signed up for.
12-23-2004, 02:05 PM
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[quote name='fitzrx7' date='Dec 21 2004, 04:13 PM']
Ian, the now current dictator (I'm not kidding) of the MRCCFL, has disbanded all of the officers of the MRCCFL.
Jerry (secretary) put in his resignation for Dec 31, as did Ron (southwest VP), and Ken (webmaster and newsletter editor). Paul (director of ops) left a few weeks ago, Jack (VP of First Coast) was kicked off for cursing in an email, and Damian (gold coast VP) if you haven't been for the same reason please let me know. Ian was threatening Christi (VP of Panhandle) with removal because her 2 cars were totaled in the hurricane!! I was on the list as an advisor and as the last VP of spacecoast and I was removed yesterday after trying to send the attached email. That leaves Ian and his girlfriend (who he just recently appointed to a position and who he wanted to be the second signer on the account).
I starting to think the detailed behavior is boarderline insanity. I guess these and his other insane actions is what he refered to as "getting rid of hooligans."
John P.
Ian, the now current dictator (I'm not kidding) of the MRCCFL, has disbanded all of the officers of the MRCCFL.
Jerry (secretary) put in his resignation for Dec 31, as did Ron (southwest VP), and Ken (webmaster and newsletter editor). Paul (director of ops) left a few weeks ago, Jack (VP of First Coast) was kicked off for cursing in an email, and Damian (gold coast VP) if you haven't been for the same reason please let me know. Ian was threatening Christi (VP of Panhandle) with removal because her 2 cars were totaled in the hurricane!! I was on the list as an advisor and as the last VP of spacecoast and I was removed yesterday after trying to send the attached email. That leaves Ian and his girlfriend (who he just recently appointed to a position and who he wanted to be the second signer on the account).
I starting to think the detailed behavior is boarderline insanity. I guess these and his other insane actions is what he refered to as "getting rid of hooligans."
John P.
12-23-2004, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dvls-7' date='Dec 23 2004, 11:30 AM
Not to rehash this stuff, but I feel the need to clarify further.
Jim, I understand all of what you said and I could see how/why you do because you said it yourself, you can only comment on what *you* see.
What Jerry and Jon were trying to point out was what went on without anyones knowledge.
Also to emphasize...NO ONE has ever disputed what Ian has done for the club, we all know he has done wonders compared to what it once was. We've ALL stated this before. The problem the officers have with Ian, is his methods and actions of doing things as of late. Yes some how it got blown up into a big ordeal.
If he wants the club to be a *dictatorship* fine, structure it so that it can function that way. But to have it being sold as a democracy, structured as a democracy, and operated as such in the past, then on a whim turn around and do the opposite is hypocritical.
Facts!!
Ian was absent due to illness....none of the officers knew of this until his return. Ian says he was always here, but as pointed out no form communication, especially when important questions were being asked (funds related), was coming from Ian...I call that being absent.
The officers took upon themselves to act instead of to wait for an anwer.
All money that came in was UNTOUCHED, all events were done out peoples own pockets.
There is more but I think Ive gone on long enough, as of now Im still an officer, that leaves Ian, Jerry (until the 1st), Karen, Ron (I haven't seen anyting stating otherwise) and myself. Gone is Christi, Jack (Ians doing), Paul and Ken (thier choice). With Jerry leaving that will only be 2, but being that Ian has asked/told Ron and myself to resign, I guess that will leave Ian and his significant other to run and control the club and its members money. If no one can see a problem with that then its ok. I however, do see a problem with it and therefore will not have any part, as that is not what I signed up for.
Jim, I understand all of what you said and I could see how/why you do because you said it yourself, you can only comment on what *you* see.
What Jerry and Jon were trying to point out was what went on without anyones knowledge.
Also to emphasize...NO ONE has ever disputed what Ian has done for the club, we all know he has done wonders compared to what it once was. We've ALL stated this before. The problem the officers have with Ian, is his methods and actions of doing things as of late. Yes some how it got blown up into a big ordeal.
If he wants the club to be a *dictatorship* fine, structure it so that it can function that way. But to have it being sold as a democracy, structured as a democracy, and operated as such in the past, then on a whim turn around and do the opposite is hypocritical.
Facts!!
Ian was absent due to illness....none of the officers knew of this until his return. Ian says he was always here, but as pointed out no form communication, especially when important questions were being asked (funds related), was coming from Ian...I call that being absent.
The officers took upon themselves to act instead of to wait for an anwer.
All money that came in was UNTOUCHED, all events were done out peoples own pockets.
There is more but I think Ive gone on long enough, as of now Im still an officer, that leaves Ian, Jerry (until the 1st), Karen, Ron (I haven't seen anyting stating otherwise) and myself. Gone is Christi, Jack (Ians doing), Paul and Ken (thier choice). With Jerry leaving that will only be 2, but being that Ian has asked/told Ron and myself to resign, I guess that will leave Ian and his significant other to run and control the club and its members money. If no one can see a problem with that then its ok. I however, do see a problem with it and therefore will not have any part, as that is not what I signed up for.
I personally think losing damian as an operative member would be a huge loss for the gold coast. I don't think i've seen anyone promote events as succsessfully as he has in the recent past. I don't know exactley what has gone on behind the scenes, but this is gettin a little silly.
12-23-2004, 05:36 PM
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I HATE DAMIAN AND ALL OF HIS CHILDREN! I HOPE THAT BIBLICAL PLAGUES KILL YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY!
sorry this thread keeps poppin up and its so much drama that about 10 people on the forum actually know about.
p.s. sorry damian i dont hate you or your children
sorry this thread keeps poppin up and its so much drama that about 10 people on the forum actually know about.
p.s. sorry damian i dont hate you or your children
12-23-2004, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Dec 23 2004, 06:35 PM
I HATE DAMIAN AND ALL OF HIS CHILDREN! I HOPE THAT BIBLICAL PLAGUES KILL YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY!
sorry this thread keeps poppin up and its so much drama that about 10 people on the forum actually know about.
p.s. sorry damian i dont hate you or your children
sorry this thread keeps poppin up and its so much drama that about 10 people on the forum actually know about.
p.s. sorry damian i dont hate you or your children
say your sorry