Beware Of The Dog...badog That Is
11-16-2003, 09:20 PM
#11
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 4
Originally Posted by Srce' date='Nov 15 2003, 08:45 PM
Sorry I haven't made myself clear. We've heard too many horror stories about the Store and people still choose to get their **** done there because nobody believes it's gonna happen to them.
Here's what I'm sick of. Everybody on NP automatically knows what Jason and his people do, so why does everybody else come here to tell their tale of how someone at Jasons blew their engine? We all know that this **** happeneds, so there's no need to tell us about it.
You might not like my opinion on this whole subject since I do not own an RX-7, but I'm entitled to it, and I understand very well that things can happen when tuning. But, why does it happen at Jason's most often, and why are his people (his tuners and employees) always on the defensive about it?
Here's what I'm sick of. Everybody on NP automatically knows what Jason and his people do, so why does everybody else come here to tell their tale of how someone at Jasons blew their engine? We all know that this **** happeneds, so there's no need to tell us about it.
You might not like my opinion on this whole subject since I do not own an RX-7, but I'm entitled to it, and I understand very well that things can happen when tuning. But, why does it happen at Jason's most often, and why are his people (his tuners and employees) always on the defensive about it?
Tony has never worked at the rx7store, maybe you should try and read the post first.
11-17-2003, 06:51 AM
#12
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: south NJ
Posts: 465
yeah, they are not *togher* at all. and where is a link to one of these horror stories of the store blowing someone's motor? i could probobly find quite a few about other shops. but even then... WTF does that prove? nothing IMO...
11-17-2003, 12:36 PM
#14
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: oHIo
Posts: 273
I'm not at liberty to discuss details since my lawyer (and friends) said to keep my mouth shut for now.
I will not be victim to $2600 in extortion. Your use of threats and extortion are the issues, Ryan.
The facts are erroneous too.
I will not be victim to $2600 in extortion. Your use of threats and extortion are the issues, Ryan.
The facts are erroneous too.
11-18-2003, 09:39 PM
#15
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,547
I'm gonna have to apologize for certain things I said in the above post. I didn't read the thread clearly and it seems that every time someone mentions Jason and screw up in the same post, I tend to go into a fits.
But, what I was referring to are stories like Nocab's, and the NUMEROUS others showing how Jason does bussines. Late deliveries, lies, and general bullshit. Sorry if I offended you Badog, that was never my intention.
But, what I was referring to are stories like Nocab's, and the NUMEROUS others showing how Jason does bussines. Late deliveries, lies, and general bullshit. Sorry if I offended you Badog, that was never my intention.
11-19-2003, 10:05 AM
#16
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Jensen Beach, FL / Sylva, NC
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Whenever I dyno my car I am made to sign a waiver that warns me of the likelyhood of my engine being blown during the tuning process.
Was a waiver signed before the work began warning Radkins that there was a chance he could blow his engine? If not, he has a legal gripe.
When you are pushing 430RWHP things get pretty shaky thats what made me decide to tune for low HP for a while until I could afford a rebuild if my engine went south.
Was a waiver signed before the work began warning Radkins that there was a chance he could blow his engine? If not, he has a legal gripe.
When you are pushing 430RWHP things get pretty shaky thats what made me decide to tune for low HP for a while until I could afford a rebuild if my engine went south.
11-19-2003, 10:30 AM
#17
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Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Nov 19 2003, 10:05 PM
Whenever I dyno my car I am made to sign a waiver that warns me of the likelyhood of my engine being blown during the tuning process.
Was a waiver signed before the work began warning Radkins that there was a chance he could blow his engine? If not, he has a legal gripe.
When you are pushing 430RWHP things get pretty shaky thats what made me decide to tune for low HP for a while until I could afford a rebuild if my engine went south.
Was a waiver signed before the work began warning Radkins that there was a chance he could blow his engine? If not, he has a legal gripe.
When you are pushing 430RWHP things get pretty shaky thats what made me decide to tune for low HP for a while until I could afford a rebuild if my engine went south.
I think it's quite nefarious that the details you leave out paint a prettier picture for yourself.
Where are the details of the abnormal deterioration of you ALL you oil seals and the traces of high oil temperatures on parts of the engine as reported by your engine builder? Being asked if any sovlents were used in the engine and the whole conversation about using solvents to flush the oil cooler and the possibility that solvents contanimated the oil system?
No mention of spending 6 hours with you and taking a half-day of my vacation time, only to waste over half of it waiting for your "mechanic" to fix your wastegate being put on wrong and your boost controller not working. Then offering to help you out even more, after I put my kids in bed, late into the evening when you wanted tuned for even higher boost.
No mention of the 2 free tunes and email support. No mention of the previous results that you were so happy to brag about in the forums.
No mention that you didn't even have the guts to call me or talk to me face to face about the issue, and send an email DEMANDING, not your tuning fee back, for me to pay ALL you expenses?
You're not mentioning the wavier!
Shame.
11-19-2003, 12:36 PM
#18
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 14
Originally Posted by Srce' date='Nov 18 2003, 07:39 PM
I'm gonna have to apologize for certain things I said in the above post. I didn't read the thread clearly and it seems that every time someone mentions Jason and screw up in the same post, I tend to go into a fits.
But, what I was referring to are stories like Nocab's, and the NUMEROUS others showing how Jason does bussines. Late deliveries, lies, and general bullshit. Sorry if I offended you Badog, that was never my intention.
But, what I was referring to are stories like Nocab's, and the NUMEROUS others showing how Jason does bussines. Late deliveries, lies, and general bullshit. Sorry if I offended you Badog, that was never my intention.
If you dont own an RX-7 why are you on this forum?
11-19-2003, 04:29 PM
#19
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Indy
Posts: 27
Originally Posted by Badog' date='Nov 19 2003, 11:30 AM
[quote name='Jims5543' date='Nov 19 2003, 10:05 PM'] Whenever I dyno my car I am made to sign a waiver that warns me of the likelyhood of my engine being blown during the tuning process.
Was a waiver signed before the work began warning Radkins that there was a chance he could blow his engine? If not, he has a legal gripe.
When you are pushing 430RWHP things get pretty shaky thats what made me decide to tune for low HP for a while until I could afford a rebuild if my engine went south.
Was a waiver signed before the work began warning Radkins that there was a chance he could blow his engine? If not, he has a legal gripe.
When you are pushing 430RWHP things get pretty shaky thats what made me decide to tune for low HP for a while until I could afford a rebuild if my engine went south.
I think it's quite nefarious that the details you leave out paint a prettier picture for yourself.
Where are the details of the abnormal deterioration of you ALL you oil seals and the traces of high oil temperatures on parts of the engine as reported by your engine builder? Being asked if any sovlents were used in the engine and the whole conversation about using solvents to flush the oil cooler and the possibility that solvents contanimated the oil system?
No mention of spending 6 hours with you and taking a half-day of my vacation time, only to waste over half of it waiting for your "mechanic" to fix your wastegate being put on wrong and your boost controller not working. Then offering to help you out even more, after I put my kids in bed, late into the evening when you wanted tuned for even higher boost.
No mention of the 2 free tunes and email support. No mention of the previous results that you were so happy to brag about in the forums.
No mention that you didn't even have the guts to call me or talk to me face to face about the issue, and send an email DEMANDING, not your tuning fee back, for me to pay ALL you expenses?
You're not mentioning the wavier!
Shame. [/quote]
Oh my juicy tidbits I wasn't aware of...hope this all gets worked out, and the parties are still agreeable. It's not good to burn bridges. I've burned a couple in 2003, and it got UGLY!