My twins are going down the shitter fast, so Time to start planning mu upgrade. If I can get 400-450RWHP I'll be more than happy. Theese are the mods I have now, Intake,downpipe,midpipe,catback,FMIC,Power FC, Cosmo fuel pump,hks BOV,9.5#flywheel,ACt clutch setup.

I now that I'm going to get bigger secondaries soon, so thats out of the way. I'm not looking to upgrade ignition now, maybe alter down the line. Also, my motor is going to be rebuilt with huge streetports. SO WHAT KIT SHOULD I GET????????

Make your own kit. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Make your own kit. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png[/quote]

I have been toying with that idea, suggestions? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Also the car will see mostly street, not strip

Make your own kit. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png[/quote]

I have been toying with that idea, suggestions? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Also the car will see mostly street, not strip[/quote]

Before you start toying with anything you may want to get rides from vosko and Ihor. They both have setups similar to yours. I'm guessing that you would mind considerable lag, right?

yeah I don't want lag, If I'm lucky I''ll hit the track 2x a year. If I can get 400rwhp I'll be happy, well **** as long as I can take out vettes on the parkway:), I take some of them now, but not all

Oh yes, and unlike Vosko I can't play captain credit card, so Cost effectiveness is my goal! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Well, for your own kit you'd be looking at about $300-800 for a manifold, $900-1200 for a turbo for your application, $300-400 for a wastegate, and a few hundred dollars to do the oil lines and downpipe. If you want a "wet" bearing housing you'll need to make water lines. A "dry" housing will do just fine.



The cheapest ready-made manifold I know of is from http://www.turbostreetfighter.com, but that one limits you to an on-center exhaust housing. It's $300. South Florida Performance makes good manifolds for about $400. You'll probably want a divided manifold and turbine. That would help with the lag. The other manifold options are the HKS cast and SS, but they're more expensive.



As for the wastegate I would say that you should just go with an HKS standard. They're very good, and the price is reasonable.



A Turbonetics 60-1, maybe with a 1.0 divided exhaust housing may be good for you. It's not too big, but it is very capable of 400 RWHP. A big shaft P-trim 60-1 would run you a little under $1200. You can always upgrade the 60-1 later on for more power at the expense of lag. So you'd be looking at about $1900-$2000 for the main parts. You'll just need the stuff to do the downpipe and oil lines, which shouldn't cost more than $200.

you definatly should get something bigger than a t04e. a friend of mine has an fd with a ported motor, dp,mp, cat back, greddy stock mount ic, pfc, and a modded stock airbox, it puts down 387rwhp @17 psi, and 350@14psi, which is the same as the t04e guys.



mike

Yeah, I agree. Converting to a small single is a waste of time since the stock twins can already get kind of close to 400 RWHP.

Wait till I get my gt 35/40 dynoed then decide

if you did have money, you could do 2 2830's....



mike

NO NO NO. I'd like to get the most bamg for my buck for around $2500

NO NO NO. I'd like to get the most bamg for my buck for around $2500[/quote]

cheapskate https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

You've got the right idea. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

NO NO NO. I'd like to get the most bamg for my buck for around $2500[/quote]

The setup I told you about would probably be the most cost effective you could go with. It wouldn't be a pretty kit with fancy heat shields and pulleys, but it would do the job.

NO NO NO. I'd like to get the most bamg for my buck for around $2500[/quote]

cheapskate https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]

My next setup will run about $2800, and it will be capable of 700+ HP on the right motor. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png I'm just hoping that it will spool up reasonably.



Kits are more expensive, but you're paying for the time it took them to design everything. If you don't want to do any fabrication then a custom setup will wind up costing more than a kit.

NO NO NO. I'd like to get the most bamg for my buck for around $2500[/quote]

The setup I told you about would probably be the most cost effective you could go with. It wouldn't be a pretty kit with fancy heat shields and pulleys, but it would do the job.[/quote]

whats cost efective? i dont understand



mike

NO NO NO. I'd like to get the most bamg for my buck for around $2500[/quote]

The setup I told you about would probably be the most cost effective you could go with. It wouldn't be a pretty kit with fancy heat shields and pulleys, but it would do the job.[/quote]

whats cost efective? i dont understand



mike[/quote]

i think he meant not paying for anything he doesn't need. cost effective that sense https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/unsure.png

NO NO NO. I'd like to get the most bamg for my buck for around $2500[/quote]

The setup I told you about would probably be the most cost effective you could go with. It wouldn't be a pretty kit with fancy heat shields and pulleys, but it would do the job.[/quote]

whats cost efective? i dont understand



mike[/quote]

i think he meant not paying for anything he doesn't need. cost effective that sense https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/unsure.png[/quote]

Yeah, putting together a "kit."

Cost effective(I guess you could call it time effecient) buying ...



Buying a Kit that is already pre-built with all the hardware fabricated to fit properly VS. Buying parts and MAKING all the hardware fit.



I made my own, and it cost me more time than money...but time is what I have...money I don't :P

exactly, I don't need pulleys, I don't need a BOV, so thats just wasted money.

Now If I buy turbo/manifold/wastegate seperate, it should just bolt up correct. I would just have to get oil lines made right? Oh and what about a downpipe?. I have no problem doing all the work, been a mechanice for 9 years, I'm just a bit on the newbie side when it comes to building up a turbo system https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Yeah, oil lines and a downpipe are all you'll need to make. -4 AN for the oil feed and -10 AN for the return will be good. The downpipe should be easy for you to make. You'll just need a good chopsaw and a welder. If you go with a Turbonetics turbo they have the oil return and drain flanges, as well as the downpipe flanges. You can also go with a v-band clamp, which will allow you to avoid a 3 or 4 bolt flange, BUT I prefer the flanges with the bolts.