What ignition would you go with or opinion on this
09-21-2002, 03:06 PM
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jacobs are bad. msd is good. crane is in between imho. once you go single, you should get the best ignition you can. no scrimping here or you risk -a- blowing the motor from badly timed sparking -b- break up, stuttering, or stumbling, especially at higher rpm or -c- not enough spark to get the power out. i really like the msd setup. run 3 msd amps with 4 msd blaster coils (they have the faster charge times and great output) and ngk racing plugs (10's or colder). (btw, "12A". you said why not go with racing plugs and be done with the issue of ignition. that doesn't get it done. the racing plugs are typically colder than stock and need more power to work right. this dictates that you use an aftermarket ignition, like the msd.) -gordon
09-22-2002, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gmonsen' date='Sep 22 2002, 06:06 AM
jacobs are bad. msd is good. crane is in between imho. once you go single, you should get the best ignition you can. no scrimping here or you risk -a- blowing the motor from badly timed sparking -b- break up, stuttering, or stumbling, especially at higher rpm or -c- not enough spark to get the power out. i really like the msd setup. run 3 msd amps with 4 msd blaster coils (they have the faster charge times and great output) and ngk racing plugs (10's or colder). (btw, "12A". you said why not go with racing plugs and be done with the issue of ignition. that doesn't get it done. the racing plugs are typically colder than stock and need more power to work right. this dictates that you use an aftermarket ignition, like the msd.) -gordon
Just curious as to what your single turbo setup is. I made a sticky(when I was a single turbo mod) and am DYING to see anything you post.
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09-22-2002, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaolin Racing' date='Sep 23 2002, 12:00 AM
Gordon,why did you put the dis2 on the trailing and the dis 6 on the leading?
I thought you wanted the most spark on the trailing?
Isn't the Dis6 stronger than the Dis2?
Can you explain this please?
I thought you wanted the most spark on the trailing?
Isn't the Dis6 stronger than the Dis2?
Can you explain this please?
I'd say the Leading is easliy the most important and hardest worked......unless your running no split where the L and T fire together
I'm sure Gordon will chime in with some info if he disagrees
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09-22-2002, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SPOautos' date='Sep 22 2002, 04:54 PM
[quote name='Shaolin Racing' date='Sep 23 2002, 12:00 AM']Gordon,why did you put the dis2 on the trailing and the dis 6 on the leading?
I thought you wanted the most spark on the trailing?
Isn't the Dis6 stronger than the Dis2?
Can you explain this please?
I thought you wanted the most spark on the trailing?
Isn't the Dis6 stronger than the Dis2?
Can you explain this please?
I'd say the Leading is easliy the most important and hardest worked......unless your running no split where the L and T fire together
I'm sure Gordon will chime in with some info if he disagrees
STEPHEN[/quote]
Maybe I am confused or just getting things backwards since I havent thought about this in awhile.
Arent the trailing rotor the first to go when popping a motor?If this is not the case then I am just getting things *** backwards or I am dislexic(SP?)
09-22-2002, 09:03 PM
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i'm talking about the leading and trailing plugs on each rotor. the trailings are a clean up firing on the stock car, but their function becomes more important when you are running a very high output motor. that's why i ran cdi amps on both. i originally did this in early 2000 and found it had a big impact on the overall running of the motor. it pulled more cleanly to redline. and more power.
the dis2 is a two channel amp (hey, stereo!), so you can feed the two separate trailing igniter leads one each to the inputs for each dis2 channel and they will fire correctly on each. since the leadings fire at the same time, you run that input into a single channel d6plus. there are very tiny problems with this in that the power from the d6plus is reduced a bit from firing both coils, but i have not found any problems with this. i think that the coils fire their full output if triggered by a sufficient input. some people have gone with running a dis2 for the leadings and a dis2 for the trailings. or, you could split the leading signal and run the same signal in parallel to 2 separate d6plus's and a dis2 for the trailings. i have not seen the necessity for this however.
the main thing is that i really believe that this setup is the best i have found and highly recommend it to anyone with a single turbo setup. -gordon
the dis2 is a two channel amp (hey, stereo!), so you can feed the two separate trailing igniter leads one each to the inputs for each dis2 channel and they will fire correctly on each. since the leadings fire at the same time, you run that input into a single channel d6plus. there are very tiny problems with this in that the power from the d6plus is reduced a bit from firing both coils, but i have not found any problems with this. i think that the coils fire their full output if triggered by a sufficient input. some people have gone with running a dis2 for the leadings and a dis2 for the trailings. or, you could split the leading signal and run the same signal in parallel to 2 separate d6plus's and a dis2 for the trailings. i have not seen the necessity for this however.
the main thing is that i really believe that this setup is the best i have found and highly recommend it to anyone with a single turbo setup. -gordon
09-22-2002, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gmonsen' date='Sep 22 2002, 07:03 PM
i'm talking about the leading and trailing plugs on each rotor. the trailings are a clean up firing on the stock car, but their function becomes more important when you are running a very high output motor. that's why i ran cdi amps on both. i originally did this in early 2000 and found it had a big impact on the overall running of the motor. it pulled more cleanly to redline. and more power.
the dis2 is a two channel amp (hey, stereo!), so you can feed the two separate trailing igniter leads one each to the inputs for each dis2 channel and they will fire correctly on each. since the leadings fire at the same time, you run that input into a single channel d6plus. there are very tiny problems with this in that the power from the d6plus is reduced a bit from firing both coils, but i have not found any problems with this. i think that the coils fire their full output if triggered by a sufficient input. some people have gone with running a dis2 for the leadings and a dis2 for the trailings. or, you could split the leading signal and run the same signal in parallel to 2 separate d6plus's and a dis2 for the trailings. i have not seen the necessity for this however.
the main thing is that i really believe that this setup is the best i have found and highly recommend it to anyone with a single turbo setup. -gordon
the dis2 is a two channel amp (hey, stereo!), so you can feed the two separate trailing igniter leads one each to the inputs for each dis2 channel and they will fire correctly on each. since the leadings fire at the same time, you run that input into a single channel d6plus. there are very tiny problems with this in that the power from the d6plus is reduced a bit from firing both coils, but i have not found any problems with this. i think that the coils fire their full output if triggered by a sufficient input. some people have gone with running a dis2 for the leadings and a dis2 for the trailings. or, you could split the leading signal and run the same signal in parallel to 2 separate d6plus's and a dis2 for the trailings. i have not seen the necessity for this however.
the main thing is that i really believe that this setup is the best i have found and highly recommend it to anyone with a single turbo setup. -gordon
If I were only going to use one box for now and get the other one later would you reccomend me getting the DIS 6 now and the DIS 2 later ot the other way around?
Can I run these on the stock coils for now (temp) or will they burn them up?
Also,would you happen to have the part numbers for those or do they only make one kind?
Sorry about all the questions..
Thanks for taking the time to answer.
09-24-2002, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaolin Racing' date='Jun 21 2002, 08:19 PM
2 MSD 6A's on the trailing
1 MSD 6A on the leading
1 MSD Coil for the leading
1 MSD Coil for the trailing
I'm thinking this will be a bad *** setup,what do you think?
1 MSD 6A on the leading
1 MSD Coil for the leading
1 MSD Coil for the trailing
I'm thinking this will be a bad *** setup,what do you think?
1 trailing 6a
1 leading 6a
1 trailing 6a
and msd coils too
09-25-2002, 01:06 AM
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I currently have the HKS Twinpower and I'm going single. I would like turn run hight boost. Can I just change out my coils for more heavy duty ones or will I have to change out my whole setup with MSD equipment? If I can change out my coils can I just get 4 msd blaster coils?