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mr.zoom 03-30-2003 09:21 AM

When I purchase my FD it had a single turbo in it.

Doing some research found out what kind of turbo it is.

It is off of a 86-87 gnx.



Currently the car does not have any aftermarket piggyback or stand alone and I would like to get the apexi PFC. Question is what would this turbo equivalent too? t4/t3? to4b?....



I get 10psi@ 4200-4500rpm





current mods:

pfs smic

greddy pulley

mid pipe

FCD

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif

Any help is greatly appreciated,





thanks

vosko 03-30-2003 09:24 AM

can you take a pic i am curious

mr.zoom 03-30-2003 09:54 AM

http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/picturegui.../8687stock.html





don't have a digicam, sorry.



this site have a picture of the turbo.



The turbo itself the way it is placed in the car is directly perpendicular to the engine. I don't have the airpump though.

I think the turbo is small enough like a t4 that the location of the turbo itself does not require a manifold that extends towards the front bumper.



hope this helps a little.



Thanks for the interest vosko.

vosko 03-30-2003 10:11 AM

i have seen many gn's at the track LOL



i was just wondering if you had a pic of it installed on your car https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

vosko 03-30-2003 10:11 AM

how the hell did they make that work ! are you sure you have a GN turbo???

mr.zoom 03-30-2003 12:51 PM

Yup its a GN turbo! I talked to the shop that custom made it. They said it is the upgrade version...all they say that it is good for up to 500 hp.

Don't have a digicam, I'll try to ask around and get it sometime....



I don't want to play the HP games just want the car to run reliably, need an ecu.



Trust me there is nothing fancy about this custom job. The manifold is made of mild steel tubing, pretty thick. short runners though. Inernal wastegate.



any idea as to what to compare this turbo to?

93 R1 03-30-2003 06:28 PM

No idea.



PFC should work fine though. It doesn't care what is bolted to the motor https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

mr.zoom 03-31-2003 07:48 AM

Thanks 93R1





So I could buy the pfc, install it, run the base maps 'till I get it tuned?



Right now it is running @10psi.

rx7machine 03-31-2003 09:05 AM

What's gnx? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

ErnieT 03-31-2003 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by mr.zoom' date='Mar 30 2003, 06:51 PM
Yup its a GN turbo! I talked to the shop that custom made it. They said it is the upgrade version...all they say that it is good for up to 500 hp.

Don't have a digicam, I'll try to ask around and get it sometime....



I don't want to play the HP games just want the car to run reliably, need an ecu.



Trust me there is nothing fancy about this custom job. The manifold is made of mild steel tubing, pretty thick. short runners though. Inernal wastegate.



any idea as to what to compare this turbo to?

500hp on a big V6 like whats in the GN, but not on a rotory. That turbo is tiny. You'd be pressed making more power than stock twins on that. It looks smaller than a T04E which is tiny, especially the compressor.

93 R1 03-31-2003 08:29 PM

The base PFC maps are set up for stock turbos, your best bet is to get a PFC and find a good t04e or t04s map to go off of until you get it tuned but I'd be real careful.

GarageBoy 03-31-2003 09:03 PM

GNX/GN Buicks- turbo V6 powered bricks that go 12s(or faster) with few mods

mr.zoom 04-01-2003 05:58 AM

I noticed that it is a little small compared to some of hte pics of TO4s that I have been seeing.





It should be fine for now and I'll get the PFC....







Thanks gentleman!

TYSON 04-01-2003 07:45 AM

I think a GN stock turbo is a straight T3.

mr.zoom 04-02-2003 02:46 PM

Tyson, the 84 and 85 is smaller (looks like a t3)than 86-87.



I have the 86-87 style. The compressor side is bigger.

r_xplicit 04-02-2003 06:00 PM

that is also very similar to the turbo on a turbo trans am, from the mid 80's.....they are small, and, IMO, worthless on a fd. i am thinking that it is similar in size to a tII turbo, but somewhere slightly larger than ONE of the twins off of an FD....


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