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Travisty 12-27-2002 06:29 PM

its that clean cause john has to keep cleaning all his spooge off of it every day :squirt:

13BAce 12-27-2002 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by Travisty' date='Dec 27 2002, 04:29 PM
its that clean cause john has to keep cleaning all his spooge off of it every day :squirt:

Maybe that's why it spools so quickly.

vosko 12-27-2002 09:15 PM

it's my special sauce what can i say.... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

JT-Imports 12-28-2002 03:44 AM

OK WTF is a TD08? Its not in my parts book, and its not on the Trust web

page.. Hook me up for some info



I have never heard of it, not that im into the TDs, except I wouldnt

mind the TD07



I have a list from the Trust parts list

TD-025

TD-04

TD-04H

TD05

TD-05H

TD-05

TD-06

TD-06S

TD-06SL2

TD-07S

TD-06SH25G

T-67

T-78

T-88



The list was just for anyone ever curious.



Jason

www.jt-imports.com

13BAce 12-28-2002 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by JT-Imports' date='Dec 28 2002, 01:44 AM
OK WTF is a TD08? Its not in my parts book, and its not on the Trust web

page.. Hook me up for some info



I have never heard of it, not that im into the TDs, except I wouldnt

mind the TD07



I have a list from the Trust parts list

TD-025

TD-04

TD-04H

TD05

TD-05H

TD-05

TD-06

TD-06S

TD-06SL2

TD-07S

TD-06SH25G

T-67

T-78

T-88



The list was just for anyone ever curious.



Jason

www.jt-imports.com

The T-88 is supposed to be a TDO8.

SlowEclipseGS-T 12-30-2002 01:20 PM

Mitsubishi turbochargers use a different sizing structure than Garrett. For example, the typical 16G turbo for DSMs is actually a TD05H/16G 7CM. TD05H is the turbine wheel, 16G is the compressor wheel, 7cm is the exhaust housing. The Greddy T78 and T88 are Mitsubishi turbochargers, but Greddy does not use the Mitsu designations for them. The T78 is a TD07 turbine wheel, with a 33D compressor wheel. T88 is a TD08 turbine wheel with a 34D compressor wheel. The reason you cannot find any info on a TD08 is probably because you're not looking in the right place? Maybe understanding the designations a little better will help. Incidentally, the 33D compressor wheel in the Greddy T78 is actually only 1mm larger than a Garrett T66 compressor wheel.

Cheers! 01-02-2003 02:36 AM

wow

Dragon 01-02-2003 08:39 AM

Interesting.. when I had my to4R appart we measured the wheel.. the inducer was 66.8 mm and the exducer size I forgot.. lol.. I think it was like 84 or 87 or 88 mm's or so.. I wrote it down at the shop on the bench so I wouldn't forget.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Any way sounds like it's probably pretty close to the T78 Mitsubishi in size..

13BAce 01-02-2003 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Dragon' date='Jan 2 2003, 06:39 AM
Interesting.. when I had my to4R appart we measured the wheel.. the inducer was 66.8 mm and the exducer size I forgot.. lol.. I think it was like 84 or 87 or 88 mm's or so.. I wrote it down at the shop on the bench so I wouldn't forget.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Any way sounds like it's probably pretty close to the T78 Mitsubishi in size..

crispeed from the other forum was saying that both the TO4R and T78 are similar, same for the T88 and T51R.

Dragon 01-02-2003 09:54 AM

Except over haul parts are easily available for my to4r, and not for the T78.. :bigthumg:

13BAce 01-02-2003 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Dragon' date='Jan 2 2003, 07:54 AM
Except over haul parts are easily available for my to4r, and not for the T78.. :bigthumg:

Yup.

jspecracer7 01-02-2003 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Dragon' date='Jan 2 2003, 11:39 PM
Interesting.. when I had my to4R appart we measured the wheel.. the inducer was 66.8 mm and the exducer size I forgot.. lol.. I think it was like 84 or 87 or 88 mm's or so.. I wrote it down at the shop on the bench so I wouldn't forget.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Any way sounds like it's probably pretty close to the T78 Mitsubishi in size..

so in other words, your T-04R and T-66 are the same size inducer? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

vosko 01-02-2003 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jan 2 2003, 11:55 AM
Yup.

thanks for reminding me https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif

Dragon 01-02-2003 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='Jan 2 2003, 09:02 AM
so in other words, your T-04R and T-66 are the same size inducer? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

Nope.. it's a whopping .8mm's bigger.. lol, .2mm smaller than Igy's Garret T-67 that they don't make anymore.. his exducer is a few mm's bigger than my R wheel though....

jspecracer7 01-02-2003 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Dragon' date='Jan 3 2003, 02:37 AM
Nope.. it's a whopping .8mm's bigger.. lol, .2mm smaller than Igy's Garret T-67 that they don't make anymore.. his exducer is a few mm's bigger than my R wheel though....

lol...your a doofus. I need to get a new manifold. I'm not confident about my "PP Racing" manifold.

vosko 01-02-2003 12:30 PM

what is "PP racing" ? i meant to ask but forgot, lol

1Revvin7 01-02-2003 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Dragon' date='Jan 2 2003, 12:37 PM
Nope.. it's a whopping .8mm's bigger.. lol, .2mm smaller than Igy's Garret T-67 that they don't make anymore.. his exducer is a few mm's bigger than my R wheel though....

I thought the to4r was much bigger, damn that thing makes good power for its size. Porbably spools pretty fast too. Seems like another good turbo to get, narrowing my list down for the future https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png : Full 60-1, t-66. gt 35/40 bb, and the R seems like it should be in there too. Anything bigger seems ridiculus for the street.

13BAce 01-02-2003 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jan 2 2003, 09:05 AM

You can get a new T78 for about 1300, close to the price for rebuilding it.

Dragon 01-02-2003 01:07 PM

lol.. you could rebuild a bunch of Garret turbo's for that.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



The To4R spools pretty damn fast, even with the a/r 1.0 exaust housing I've got on it..



PPR = Poor People Racing.. lol.. we mark all of our fabricated parts with it... LMAO...

vosko 01-02-2003 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jan 2 2003, 01:35 PM
You can get a new T78 for about 1300, close to the price for rebuilding it.

i know i was trying to get a brand new spare but i'll just till i have a problem with this one

13BAce 01-02-2003 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jan 2 2003, 11:32 AM
i know i was trying to get a brand new spare but i'll just till i have a problem with this one

It should last a while as long as you take care of it.

13BAce 01-02-2003 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by Dragon' date='Jan 2 2003, 11:07 AM
lol.. you could rebuild a bunch of Garret turbo's for that.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



The To4R spools pretty damn fast, even with the a/r 1.0 exaust housing I've got on it..



PPR = Poor People Racing.. lol.. we mark all of our fabricated parts with it... LMAO...

What does it spool at?

SlowEclipseGS-T 01-02-2003 09:52 PM


crispeed from the other forum was saying that both the TO4R and T78 are similar, same for the T88 and T51R.


This is exactly what I came up with also when doing a little research. A Greddy T78 is very similar in size and Hp output to the Garrett T66 and the HKS T04R. While the Greddy T88 is similar in size and HP output to the HKS T51R KAI, and the Garrett T72. Good stuff to know. Although I wonder if the T72 or T88 would have the fantastic sound of the KAI https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

1Revvin7 01-03-2003 12:15 AM

interestings eclipse...

Dragon 01-03-2003 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jan 2 2003, 06:16 PM
[quote name='Dragon' date='Jan 2 2003, 11:07 AM'] lol.. you could rebuild a bunch of Garret turbo's for that.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



The To4R spools pretty damn fast, even with the a/r 1.0 exaust housing I've got on it..



PPR = Poor People Racing.. lol.. we mark all of our fabricated parts with it... LMAO...

What does it spool at? [/quote]

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif I love that question.. lol.. It depends if the car is under load, what gear it's in, how far I push the gas pedal to the floor etc.. hahahha I have a large ex port that kicks it in the ass pretty fast and I've got pretty damn good tork down low, so it pulls nice regardless of lag.. If I'm doing a drag launch it goes to full boost instantly, normal driving 3rd gear cruising at 40 mph if I punch it I'd say I'm at full boost in about 1 1/2 seconds with the ass end starting to slide around a little. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

jspecracer7 01-03-2003 07:02 AM

What are you thoughts on divided housings? I understand that they're supposed to spool faster than undivided, but hurt top end. I've got a divided a/r 1.00, but I wanted a top end puller car(redline 9000+ rpms). Will this be okay or should I go look for a undivided a/r 1.00? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

charlie 01-10-2003 04:02 PM

Following the pattern, the T78 is a td07/td08 the T88 is td08/td08 does that make the t66 a td06? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



And how is the td06sh25g for a stock port 13B looking for 350-400 rwhp? What boost to achieve 400rwhp? Too small for a ported motor?

13BAce 01-10-2003 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by charlie' date='Jan 10 2003, 02:02 PM
Following the pattern, the T78 is a td07/td08 the T88 is td08/td08 does that make the t66 a td06? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



And how is the td06sh25g for a stock port 13B looking for 350-400 rwhp? What boost to achieve 400rwhp? Too small for a ported motor?

The T-66 is not a Mitsubishi turbo. The TDO6 will spool up very quickly, pretty good for stock ports, but it won't give the top end that a bigger turbo would give. I've heard of people getting around 400 RWHP at 18 PSI, or something close. So it's pretty close to the stock twins.

j9fd3s 01-10-2003 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jan 10 2003, 06:14 PM
[quote name='charlie' date='Jan 10 2003, 02:02 PM'] Following the pattern, the T78 is a td07/td08 the T88 is td08/td08 does that make the t66 a td06? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



And how is the td06sh25g for a stock port 13B looking for 350-400 rwhp? What boost to achieve 400rwhp? Too small for a ported motor?

The T-66 is not a Mitsubishi turbo. The TDO6 will spool up very quickly, pretty good for stock ports, but it won't give the top end that a bigger turbo would give. I've heard of people getting around 400 RWHP at 18 PSI, or something close. So it's pretty close to the stock twins. [/quote]

my friend did 387rwhp with the stock twins, so it is close



mike


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