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Old 11-06-2003, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rx7tt95' date='Nov 2 2003, 06:29 PM
Check out the latest Sport Compact Car (December 2003 w/ Apexi drift FD on the cover). They're using a Vmount setup with an Apexi drag core. Very nice setup. Also interesting was the use of an Altezza radiator. Wonder if the IS300 radiator in the states is the same. Ducting is very nicely set up.



Sean, will the GT40R kit mount the turbo high like the GReddy T78 kit and the 35/40 kit you sell? Or will it be lower and further back like some of the HKS setups?

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The Rotary Extreme regular V mount is also featured in the same issue on another drift FD. It's pretty nice to get free exposure without paying a dime.



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For this Turbo, I need 1200CFM+, I need a 4" core, 3" piping in and 4" piping out, I prefer vertical fins, needs to be setup for NO battery (remote battery), NO Y-pipe (single turbo), and NO intake. It would be nice if the sucker were as wide as possible, across the area where the intakes and battery goes.



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Yes, this of course means that the end tanks on the top and bottom rather the sides.
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Originally Posted by Badog' date='Nov 6 2003, 09:39 AM
For this Turbo, I need 1200CFM+, I need a 4" core, 3" piping in and 4" piping out, I prefer vertical fins, needs to be setup for NO battery (remote battery), NO Y-pipe (single turbo), and NO intake. It would be nice if the sucker were as wide as possible, across the area where the intakes and battery goes.



Horizontal fins

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Vertical fins

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Yes, this of course means that the end tanks on the top and bottom rather the sides.
Tony:



If you want the top and bottom end tank, the core size will be greatly reduced and you won't be able to find a core that flows 1200cfm in that configuration.



The maximum length from top and bottom is 12". So if you want a 3" inlet pipe and a 4" outlet pipe, that will only leave you with 5" of core. You also need some space on the end tank to weld the pipe so that will leave you with a 4" core. I don't think any company makes that size and flows 1200 cfm.



Spearco does have a core that's 24" wide so you will need to relocate the battery to the back. Unfortunately, that core does not flow as much as the core I am using. The core I am using is the second highest flowing core made by Spearco. The highest one flows 1500 cfm but it's too tall.



I don't think a 4" outlet pipe will be a good idea. You will lose a lot of air velocity. Besides that, I can't find a place to mandrel bend 4" pipes.



What turbo are you using that requires 1200 cfm and 4" outlet?



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Originally Posted by rotaryextreme' date='Nov 6 2003, 08:32 AM
[quote name='BoostedRex' date='Nov 2 2003, 06:37 AM'] I am currently looking at Chuck's Monster V-mount setup. It looks good. I was looking at the regular V-mount he is selling, but it just doesn't look big enough. I want something that if I decide to run 22psi I don't have to worry about maxing out the IC. So the Monster is where I'm heading now. How does yours compare in size and capabilities of the Monster? I believe it was rated at 1250CFM @15psi and capable of supporting 800hp. Granted I'm not going for 800, more like 500 to 550 on high boost. If yours compares you might end up being my "one stop shopping place." And a package deal would probably be available to me as well!! Let me know something.



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I am working on a monster v mount II using a 1400 cfm core enough to support 900 HP. The core measures 11"x19.5"x4.5". There is no way you can out flow this one and best of all, I am keeping it at the same price.



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Do you think that the GT40R would outflow your original Monster V-mount setup at 20-22psi?? I thought that it would be more than sufficient. If not then please let me know. I do love the way your V-mount setup looks in the car though. I just can't decide between the mini battery and a battery relocation. But kudo's to you for your work with the FD!! Your products kick ***!! I have seen a few of them in person on people's cars and they are just as good in person as they look on the website. I'll be buying tons from you as well as A-Spec. Actually you two combined are going to get my next 2 years worth of paychecks pretty much!! Anybody up for a package deal for a hard working Air Force mechanic?? Laterz.



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Originally Posted by rotaryextreme' date='Nov 6 2003, 11:56 PM
[quote name='Badog' date='Nov 6 2003, 09:39 AM'] For this Turbo, I need 1200CFM+, I need a 4" core, 3" piping in and 4" piping out, I prefer vertical fins, needs to be setup for NO battery (remote battery), NO Y-pipe (single turbo), and NO intake. It would be nice if the sucker were as wide as possible, across the area where the intakes and battery goes.



Horizontal fins

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Vertical fins

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Yes, this of course means that the end tanks on the top and bottom rather the sides.
Tony:



If you want the top and bottom end tank, the core size will be greatly reduced and you won't be able to find a core that flows 1200cfm in that configuration.



The maximum length from top and bottom is 12". So if you want a 3" inlet pipe and a 4" outlet pipe, that will only leave you with 5" of core. You also need some space on the end tank to weld the pipe so that will leave you with a 4" core. I don't think any company makes that size and flows 1200 cfm.



Spearco does have a core that's 24" wide so you will need to relocate the battery to the back. Unfortunately, that core does not flow as much as the core I am using. The core I am using is the second highest flowing core made by Spearco. The highest one flows 1500 cfm but it's too tall.



I don't think a 4" outlet pipe will be a good idea. You will lose a lot of air velocity. Besides that, I can't find a place to mandrel bend 4" pipes.



What turbo are you using that requires 1200 cfm and 4" outlet?



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The one in the thread.







Notice that 75% of this thread is Zach's sig?
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Okay, Chuck. How about 3" in and out?



So, the max is 12" of vertical space. What is the width of the large/hiflo core you're getting? Then add end tanks? How much wider than the current one on your site?



How about a group buy price with under 100% profit, too?
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Chuck you can't find anybody to bend 4" that's too bad for you, maybe we can work something out like you stay off my thread and I'll bend your 4" pipe



Tony 4" out wouldn't be that good of a idea you will lose velocity, you are right though in wanting a vertical setup instead of a horizantal one,Tube length is one of the biggest considerations, a tube twice as long as another will have nearly twice the drag at the same velocity. Entry and density also matter to a degree.The most ideal configuration is position the core to offer the shortest length tube and the most number of tubes. This would optimize core area but the way you would like and what you can do sometimes don't agree.



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Originally Posted by Badog' date='Nov 6 2003, 11:40 AM
Notice that 75% of this thread is Zach's sig?
Very funny Tony!! I have to advertise the TII. After all it is for sale.
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Originally Posted by BoostedRex' date='Nov 6 2003, 10:42 AM
[quote name='rotaryextreme' date='Nov 6 2003, 08:32 AM'] [quote name='BoostedRex' date='Nov 2 2003, 06:37 AM'] I am currently looking at Chuck's Monster V-mount setup. It looks good. I was looking at the regular V-mount he is selling, but it just doesn't look big enough. I want something that if I decide to run 22psi I don't have to worry about maxing out the IC. So the Monster is where I'm heading now. How does yours compare in size and capabilities of the Monster? I believe it was rated at 1250CFM @15psi and capable of supporting 800hp. Granted I'm not going for 800, more like 500 to 550 on high boost. If yours compares you might end up being my "one stop shopping place." And a package deal would probably be available to me as well!! Let me know something.



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I am working on a monster v mount II using a 1400 cfm core enough to support 900 HP. The core measures 11"x19.5"x4.5". There is no way you can out flow this one and best of all, I am keeping it at the same price.



Chuck Huang [/quote]

Chuck,



Do you think that the GT40R would outflow your original Monster V-mount setup at 20-22psi?? I thought that it would be more than sufficient. If not then please let me know. I do love the way your V-mount setup looks in the car though. I just can't decide between the mini battery and a battery relocation. But kudo's to you for your work with the FD!! Your products kick ***!! I have seen a few of them in person on people's cars and they are just as good in person as they look on the website. I'll be buying tons from you as well as A-Spec. Actually you two combined are going to get my next 2 years worth of paychecks pretty much!! Anybody up for a package deal for a hard working Air Force mechanic?? Laterz.



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Zach:



There is no way you can outflow the core with that turbo. Right now I am making 3 of them all for the HKS T51R Kai which flows 80 lb/min.



Let's do a little match.



The new core I use is 19.5" wide, 11" tall, and 4.5" thick. It flows 1400 CFM at 15 psi which is about 2 ATM.



1400 CFM stands for 1400 ft3/min = 37.8 m3/min (cubic meter / min)



The dry air density at ATM is 1.22 kg/m3 so at 2 atm, it is 2.44 kg/m3



You take the CFM and multiply the air density at 15 psi will be



37.8 m3/min x 2.44 kg/m3 = 92.23 kg/min = 203 lb/min



So with the calculation, it shows the core can flow 203 lb/min at 15 psi. I doubt your turbo can flow that much.



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Originally Posted by Badog' date='Nov 6 2003, 11:40 AM
[quote name='rotaryextreme' date='Nov 6 2003, 11:56 PM'] [quote name='Badog' date='Nov 6 2003, 09:39 AM'] For this Turbo, I need 1200CFM+, I need a 4" core, 3" piping in and 4" piping out, I prefer vertical fins, needs to be setup for NO battery (remote battery), NO Y-pipe (single turbo), and NO intake. It would be nice if the sucker were as wide as possible, across the area where the intakes and battery goes.



Horizontal fins

[---------------]

[---------------]



Vertical fins

[|||||||||||||||]

[|||||||||||||||]



Yes, this of course means that the end tanks on the top and bottom rather the sides.
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If you want the top and bottom end tank, the core size will be greatly reduced and you won't be able to find a core that flows 1200cfm in that configuration.



The maximum length from top and bottom is 12". So if you want a 3" inlet pipe and a 4" outlet pipe, that will only leave you with 5" of core. You also need some space on the end tank to weld the pipe so that will leave you with a 4" core. I don't think any company makes that size and flows 1200 cfm.



Spearco does have a core that's 24" wide so you will need to relocate the battery to the back. Unfortunately, that core does not flow as much as the core I am using. The core I am using is the second highest flowing core made by Spearco. The highest one flows 1500 cfm but it's too tall.



I don't think a 4" outlet pipe will be a good idea. You will lose a lot of air velocity. Besides that, I can't find a place to mandrel bend 4" pipes.



What turbo are you using that requires 1200 cfm and 4" outlet?



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Chuck,



The one in the thread.







Notice that 75% of this thread is Zach's sig? [/quote]

It will be way more than enough for your turbo. See the calculation I did for Zach.



3" inlet and 3 " outlet is more than enough. Even if you use a 4" outlet but your throttle body is not 4", it's going to create turburlance. You ended up losing air velocity. I know it looks cool but things have to match.



The width of the core is 19.5" and with end tanks, the total width is 26.5"-27".







Group buy price is possible if we can get 4+ buyers.



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