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s13srmadness 11-13-2003 06:00 PM

at what rpm do you make full boost of 15lbs on your singe turbo rx7?

i am asking for a friend that is about to make a serious mistake on his fc project.

also if anyone has dyno graphs handy that would be cool.

this guys car is not going to be a drag car and he's talking about getting a t66 or a 62-1 for what would basically be a street car. the lag and power below 5k rpm are going to suffer severely, right?

i am particularly interested in dyno graphs of a to4s VS a t66. (both on normal unported motors)

thanks,

-steve

1Revvin7 11-13-2003 06:20 PM

#s will vary greatly on turbine a/r and trim...

s13srmadness 11-13-2003 08:26 PM

that much is obvious.

i was assuming that people would say what a/r etc...

1Revvin7 11-13-2003 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by s13srmadness' date='Nov 13 2003, 09:26 PM
that much is obvious.

i was assuming that people would say what a/r etc...

Exactly, you can't say a turbo is going to be too laggy w/o saying what turbine trim, a/r, and porting....

s13srmadness 11-13-2003 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Nov 13 2003, 06:33 PM
[quote name='s13srmadness' date='Nov 13 2003, 09:26 PM'] that much is obvious.

i was assuming that people would say what a/r etc...

Exactly, you can't say a turbo is going to be too laggy w/o saying what turbine trim, a/r, and porting.... [/quote]

i think you're missing the point of my post.

i see that you're a mod, but your posts here are still unrelated and less than helpful..

GarageBoy 11-13-2003 09:21 PM

So give us the spec, then. We could help you easily

jspecracer7 11-14-2003 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by s13srmadness' date='Nov 14 2003, 12:04 PM
[quote name='1Revvin7' date='Nov 13 2003, 06:33 PM'] [quote name='s13srmadness' date='Nov 13 2003, 09:26 PM'] that much is obvious.

i was assuming that people would say what a/r etc...

Exactly, you can't say a turbo is going to be too laggy w/o saying what turbine trim, a/r, and porting.... [/quote]

i think you're missing the point of my post.

i see that you're a mod, but your posts here are still unrelated and less than helpful.. [/quote]

You have to give us some information on the turbo though. For instance, if you said a "O" trim a/r .56 exhaust side with a t-66 front...he'd probably have boost at 2000 rpms https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png But if you said a "Q" trim a/r 1.00 exhaust side with a t-66 front on an exhaust ported motor, then expect boost to hit at about 4500 to 5000 rpms.



My t-45s doesn't spool till 5000 rpms, and it's a "street" car.

DuMaurier 7 11-14-2003 04:48 AM

The type of engine porting is VERY IMPORTANT too !!!! , I get away with using a 1.22 a/r turbine with a 71mm turbine wheel !!!.

sidewinderx7 11-14-2003 05:29 AM

Well with any luck, hopefully im going to be spinning a 1. ex a/r with a mild ported exhaust and half bridge (or large street .. havent decided yet) intake port. I expect full boost around 5k ... seems like thats where most people get full boost. Looking at tuning logs and hear say.

1Revvin7 11-14-2003 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by s13srmadness' date='Nov 13 2003, 10:04 PM
[quote name='1Revvin7' date='Nov 13 2003, 06:33 PM'] [quote name='s13srmadness' date='Nov 13 2003, 09:26 PM'] that much is obvious.

i was assuming that people would say what a/r etc...

Exactly, you can't say a turbo is going to be too laggy w/o saying what turbine trim, a/r, and porting.... [/quote]

i think you're missing the point of my post.

i see that you're a mod, but your posts here are still unrelated and less than helpful.. [/quote]

No you are missing the point LOL. I know whats going to spool when and you still have not told me what the specs are. If you want me to tell you what will work and won't be laggy ect, then ask it and stop beating around the bush.

94touring 11-14-2003 11:16 AM

I had a t-62-1 with 1.0 exhaust, 0.7 comp, on a P trim and it had great low end power, and a **** load of power after 4k rpms that pulled forever.

Jims5543 11-14-2003 11:32 AM

Just give him a number thats all he wants.



I say 5.

jspecracer7 11-14-2003 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Nov 15 2003, 02:32 AM
Just give him a number thats all he wants.



I say 5.

no no no Jim...remember, the magical number is SEVEN https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

jspecracer7 11-14-2003 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by sidewinderx7' date='Nov 14 2003, 08:29 PM
Well with any luck, hopefully im going to be spinning a 1. ex a/r with a mild ported exhaust and half bridge (or large street .. havent decided yet) intake port. I expect full boost around 5k ... seems like thats where most people get full boost. Looking at tuning logs and hear say.

You should expect sooner with a 1.0. I remember IGY saying his P trim 1.15 housing on a streetport/exhaust port reaches boost at 4500 rpms. I have an HKS wheel(bigger than a "Q" trim) with a 1.04 and I reach boost at 5000~ with a streetport/exhaust port.

sidewinderx7 11-15-2003 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='Nov 14 2003, 12:38 PM
You should expect sooner with a 1.0. I remember IGY saying his P trim 1.15 housing on a streetport/exhaust port reaches boost at 4500 rpms. I have an HKS wheel(bigger than a "Q" trim) with a 1.04 and I reach boost at 5000~ with a streetport/exhaust port.

that certainly brings a smile to my face https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif haha

Ive been entertaining the idea of a little "spool kit" to help it along. You have any experience with large turbos + nitrous?

jspecracer7 11-15-2003 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by sidewinderx7' date='Nov 15 2003, 11:40 PM
that certainly brings a smile to my face https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif haha

Ive been entertaining the idea of a little "spool kit" to help it along. You have any experience with large turbos + nitrous?

No nitrous(via legal means) on the island of Okinawa. What will you be shifting at?

sidewinderx7 11-15-2003 03:17 PM

i'd be shifting right around 8 grand. Its a s5.... has kinda a low redline.



no nitrous on the island huh? bummer... lol

ive been looking at traveling over there, it anything like tokyo?

Dragon 11-22-2003 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by s13srmadness' date='Nov 13 2003, 04:00 PM
at what rpm do you make full boost of 15lbs on your singe turbo rx7?

i am asking for a friend that is about to make a serious mistake on his fc project.

also if anyone has dyno graphs handy that would be cool.

this guys car is not going to be a drag car and he's talking about getting a t66 or a 62-1 for what would basically be a street car. the lag and power below 5k rpm are going to suffer severely, right?

i am particularly interested in dyno graphs of a to4s VS a t66. (both on normal unported motors)

thanks,

-steve

your friend puts a a/r .84 exhaust housing on either of those turbo's he won't have much boost lag and it will run great. I would suggest the 60-1 because it's cheaper, but the 62-1 will also work well but is a little more expensive for very little gain. Both of those turbo's use a standard shaft and are cheaper to overhaul.. The T66 uses a big shaft and the large A/R compressor housing can cause fitment problems on some manifolds. The big shaft turbo is also more expensive to overhaul and the turbo costs more than 2 times as much as the 60-1. The price of the T-66 would make it cost ineffective for use on a stock ported motor, especially one that won't be raced much even though you can make it spool just fine.


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