Power With Speed, Possible?
09-03-2003, 08:14 PM
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I want to run my fd at about 500hp, but it would be nice to have a fast spool. Is it possible to have 500hp witha twin set up, non sequential I am thinking, and put out 500 horses? I am thinking about everything, I want those on twin ball bearings, a ceramic turbine would be nice if they exist, and the added pressure form the water injection should help spool even faster. Do you think this is a good idea or should I just go with single? I mean if twins done right is single still better?
09-03-2003, 08:35 PM
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pressure from WI? comeon man.
there has to be a compromise in everything. If you have a big single running 500 hp you are going to have a little lag.
IGY is going to be running some huge twins (t04s based) and put together his 'kit' for cheep, mostly because he can fab everything he needs by himself. Your choices for real slim for true twin systems. You refered to 'non seq' in the post. there are no aftermarket twin STOCK STYLE turbos that can put out near 500 whp.
I would just stick with a good big single. it will end up costing you way less.
there has to be a compromise in everything. If you have a big single running 500 hp you are going to have a little lag.
IGY is going to be running some huge twins (t04s based) and put together his 'kit' for cheep, mostly because he can fab everything he needs by himself. Your choices for real slim for true twin systems. You refered to 'non seq' in the post. there are no aftermarket twin STOCK STYLE turbos that can put out near 500 whp.
I would just stick with a good big single. it will end up costing you way less.
09-03-2003, 08:38 PM
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sometimes twins are cool...like igy's soon to be setup. otherwise i like the simplicity of the single setup....less to go wrong. also with a huge twin setup like that you need two of everything! so $$$ becomes a major concern. and the manifold is definantly not an off the shelf item. i wouldnt relie"sp?...i know i cant spell" on water injection alone. get a nice intercooler and then add water injection once you need it. also a 400rwhp fd is damn fast..why do you need a monster fd..? just because?
09-03-2003, 09:58 PM
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why?! if you need me to tell you why go watch home and garden tv or something.... lol
the lag of a big turbo really scares me... any words of encoragment? (see I cant spell either
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does anyone know if there are any ceramic turbines out there?
the lag of a big turbo really scares me... any words of encoragment? (see I cant spell either
PS:
does anyone know if there are any ceramic turbines out there?
09-03-2003, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by epion2985' date='Sep 3 2003, 11:05 PM
um, dragon said wi will help the turbo spool faster because the pressure will increase. It makes sence, more gases in the exast makes for more spooling power
09-03-2003, 10:29 PM
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your joking right? No such thing as best of both worlds. A true twin system like IGYs would cost the normal person a fortune...but IGY and Dragon together fabbed the manifold and all the piping with it...practically cost IGY nothing at all.
Lag...lmfao...ask ANYBODY that has gone single turbo. Lag is irrelevent. I run an HKS T-45S. Exhaust wheel is bigger than a "Q" trim wheel. I spool 1000 rpms later than most cars...guess what. I don't care. My measily .8 kilos boost pressure will whoop ***(just wait till I turn the boost up to 1.3 )
Most single turbos spool at appx 4k rpms. Trust me. I have never ran into a single turbo owner that was upset about going single turbo....
Lag...lmfao...ask ANYBODY that has gone single turbo. Lag is irrelevent. I run an HKS T-45S. Exhaust wheel is bigger than a "Q" trim wheel. I spool 1000 rpms later than most cars...guess what. I don't care. My measily .8 kilos boost pressure will whoop ***(just wait till I turn the boost up to 1.3
Most single turbos spool at appx 4k rpms. Trust me. I have never ran into a single turbo owner that was upset about going single turbo....
09-04-2003, 01:51 AM
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I see.... thanks for the imput
IGY and Dragon should make a thread with pics and details, it would be wonderfull to see their setup.
as far as fabrication goes I will have acces to the shop on a neeighbourly collage campus so i can fab things that are simple like piping and such
IGY and Dragon should make a thread with pics and details, it would be wonderfull to see their setup.
as far as fabrication goes I will have acces to the shop on a neeighbourly collage campus so i can fab things that are simple like piping and such
09-04-2003, 03:36 AM
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Take a look here. The pics of my setup are spread out through the thread.
https://www.nopistons.com/forums/index.php?...showtopic=22120
https://www.nopistons.com/forums/index.php?...showtopic=22120
