well i had a apex rx6 kit lying around, so i figured i would install it and see how it was. my car was running perfectly fine 2 months ago before i started doing the install. the car has been sitting for the winter and i started the single about 2 weeks ago. anyway got it done today and i fired it up.... blowing some thick oil and has 0 power. it doesnt want to idle at all. it smells of fuel and oil pretty bad. seems to me like the motor is blown but i dont understand how. i started the car before the install and no problems. did the install and now it runs like ****. any ideas of what it could be? maybe something i forgot to connect?

Holy cow man, that one hard problem to diagnose over the net...



Sounds like it could be a bad turbo...blowing tons of oil.



what ECU?



Do a compression test to see about the motor.

will do a compression test tomorrow. it seems more like the motor then the turbo just by the way it runs, idles, and sounds. unless there is an oil vacuum i forgot to connect. i still have the rats nest in, because i thought i might go back to the twins.



btw. the ecu is a power fc tuned for the turbo and 1200cc injectors.



also.. i checked the intercooler pipes and there was no oil so thats another reason i think its not the turbo.

Did you eliminate the rats nest and add the proper block off plates ect... Does the ecu have the proper map? A lot of variables and unlikely the engine is blown if all you did was crank it up.

my guess is you'r flooding your engine with those 1200cc injectors... you probably dont have the injectors set for stock... double check that.



and make sure everything is blocked off and capped properly

what do you mean by the injectors set for stock? i installed the turbo kit, ecu, and injectors at the same time. the ecu was set for the turbo and 1200cc injectors.

can you get a video of it running or cranking. That would help:)

were there any issues with the turbo prior to install..

what size oil feed line are you running to the turbo? did the kit come with a pill?

no problems with the turbo that i know of. no shaft play or anything either.



i am using the oil feed line that came with the kit. i dont know if there are any pills in it...



i will try to get a vid. ill see if my buddy has something i can use.

That kit if memory serves me has a restrictor in the line already, should be fine there.

I know this is a stupid question but............

Have you checked the Map sensor vacuum line?

yes checked the map sensor it was connected.

What about spark plug wire configuration? They in the right order? Now is also a good time to pull the plugs and see if they are wet with fuel and fouled. Is it the correct map sensor and is the PFC setup to read whatever bar map it is?

oh forgot to add that i just did an msd 6a ignition set up to my leading plugs. i know i set it up correct. i will re check it though.



also i think this could be my problem. i checked the vac. lines for the OMP and i had capped the line that goes to the intake. could the OMP just be shooting in oil because i dont have it vacuumed?



on the ecu , i think the map is correct. i bought the ecu with a map for this turbo set up and these injectors.

no, the omp wouldn't just dump oil...the vacuum line helps open the nozzles, some say the nozzles will in fact open at atmosphere.

dude, youve got a ton of variables. Next time, do the upgrades in stages. Install turbo, verify car starts, runs, idles, etc. Then install the MSD ignition box, etc. If you change everything at once you better hope to god it all works or else your scratching your head (what your doing now) trying to figure out what the **** went wrong.



Im very anti-msd, so Im betting the ignition buggered up.

but what would explain the extra oil being burnt....

ok, checked spark from the msd ...... and nothing. i butt connected the wires. i think thats not working to well. i am going to soder them and see what happens.

ok update. re-did the ignition except this time i went with a crane hi-6s. i really like this ignition amp because it stops multi-sparking at 2k rpm.. anyway now re-checked spark on the leading coils and its good.



now the problem is that it still runs the same. i noticed fuel is being spit out of my tailpipe. i put my finger in the tailpipe and i got a good amount of raw fuel on it. so i am figuring the 1200cc injectors are the problem. when i installed the injectors i did not lube them. i had completely forgot. figuring they could have split or something.

since your ignition wasnt working before, your car is probably flooded like a mother fucker... clean those plugs or get new ones, and unflood that motor before you try to crank it again

Yeah there is a chance your injectors are fine. You flooded it with no spark. Change plugs they are definetly fouled.

really that fouled out that it will run horrible and spit fuel out? there was so much fuel that it was sitting in both tips of the exhaust. well i will change the plugs next and see what happens.

Yeah, if you weren't making any spark like you said or maybe improper spark, fuel wasn't being burnt. So when you sat there and kept turning it over and over, fuel continually got injected. Spark plugs go bad when they get saturated like that and will not work properly if at all. Pull those plugs and clear the system, then install new plugs.

well found the problem. it was my injectors being installed improporly without lube. check out the pics , the black center plastic was cracked and fuel was being leaked in because the o-ring were not seated properly. pics on page 7



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