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Dysfnctnl85 05-30-2004 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='May 30 2004, 12:51 AM
But Scre isn't going for "only" 400 rwhp or the "cheap" route. He's doing it to be different and make lots of HP...plus bragging rights of having a very unique setup.

Unique and unreliable.



Hey if he wants it, more power to him. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

rdavidsrx7 05-30-2004 03:40 PM

srce,

have you talked to Howard Coleman about his setup? His name may have been mentioned early on in this thread, but what was stated was not up to date. He is trying out a twin t-04s setup right now and is just now breaking in the motor. He told me that he saw 5 psi of boost however by 2100 rpm. He has been working with majestic turbo, and I can't wait till his engine is broken in and then tuned so we can see what he gets out of that setup.



Bob

jspecracer7 05-30-2004 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' date='May 30 2004, 11:24 PM
Unique and unreliable.



Hey if he wants it, more power to him. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Explain to me How it's UNRELIABLE? What exactly makes it UNRELIABLE? Parts will break REGARDLESS of how many turbos you strap to the engine....500+ hp tends to do that. If anything, the engine will be MORE reliable. Remember I said IGY had 400~ hp at 8 psi...most single T-04S cars were making 400~ hp at 14 psi....so He does NOT have to run more boost because he has more air flow.

Dysfnctnl85 05-30-2004 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='May 30 2004, 09:02 PM
Explain to me How it's UNRELIABLE? What exactly makes it UNRELIABLE? Parts will break REGARDLESS of how many turbos you strap to the engine....500+ hp tends to do that. If anything, the engine will be MORE reliable. Remember I said IGY had 400~ hp at 8 psi...most single T-04S cars were making 400~ hp at 14 psi....so He does NOT have to run more boost because he has more air flow.

Chill, I'm not trying to start a war. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



The amount of boost doesn't really have much to do with reliablity in my mind, it all comes to how much air you're flowing, so you can't really base reliability on the amount of boost someone is running...



For instance...a Y2K running 6psi is going to flow a lot more air than a T28 at 6psi. So, you could make the observation that the Y2K will cause the motor to be more unreliable simply because of the amount of air it is supplying to the motor.



Look, I'm no expert, it's not a secret. I'm just trying to make common sense out of "reliability" and "2 big singles" describing the same motor, let alone being in the same sentence.

jspecracer7 05-30-2004 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' date='May 31 2004, 11:22 AM
Chill, I'm not trying to start a war. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



The amount of boost doesn't really have much to do with reliablity in my mind, it all comes to how much air you're flowing, so you can't really base reliability on the amount of boost someone is running...



For instance...a Y2K running 6psi is going to flow a lot more air than a T28 at 6psi. So, you could make the observation that the Y2K will cause the motor to be more unreliable simply because of the amount of air it is supplying to the motor.



Look, I'm no expert, it's not a secret. I'm just trying to make common sense out of "reliability" and "2 big singles" describing the same motor, let alone being in the same sentence.

Your confusing yourself too much young Padawan. Yes airflow is what makes HP. However, how many engine failures do you know are from LOW boost? With high boost engine's(19 psi+) tuning becomes CRITICAL. Low boost...they'll run forever. So he'll have the best of both worlds...Low boost and high air flow. Downside is COST and COMPLEXITY. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Dysfnctnl85 05-30-2004 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='May 30 2004, 10:26 PM
Your confusing yourself too much young Padawan. Yes airflow is what makes HP. However, how many engine failures do you know are from LOW boost? With high boost engine's(19 psi+) tuning becomes CRITICAL. Low boost...they'll run forever. So he'll have the best of both worlds...Low boost and high air flow. Downside is COST and COMPLEXITY. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Padawan, LOL.



See conceptually to me that doesn't make sense. Wouldn't it have more to do with the sheer volume of air you are forcing into the engine?

jspecracer7 05-30-2004 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' date='May 31 2004, 11:28 AM
Padawan, LOL.



See conceptually to me that doesn't make sense. Wouldn't it have more to do with the sheer volume of air you are forcing into the engine?

No https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Dysfnctnl85 05-30-2004 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='May 30 2004, 10:31 PM

Okay, well explain to me why.



Why would an engine blow simply because someone was running 18psi on something like a t-28, when that same volume of air could be made from a T-66 at 8psi? I don't understand the difference...why would the motor blow if it is receiving the same amount of air, but with a more efficient turbo?

jspecracer7 05-30-2004 10:53 PM

COMPRESSION RATIO.

Dysfnctnl85 05-31-2004 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='May 30 2004, 11:53 PM
COMPRESSION RATIO.

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