RX-8 Discussion Discussion on Mazda's newest rotary powered vehicle.

Why Does It Keep Losing Hp?

Old Dec 9, 2002 | 11:38 PM
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Ok first it was around 280 hp, then it went down to 250, and now Car & Driver has it listed at 247 hp. Originally it seamed feasible that it would be able to keep up with the 3rd gen rx-7, but now they are posting 1/4 mile times in the high 14's. This poor thing will lose to mustangs! The 350z is up there at 280 hp. What is Mazda thinking?
Old Dec 10, 2002 | 12:25 AM
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economy?
Old Dec 10, 2002 | 12:39 AM
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Na, I think it has more to do with emissions and ****.
Old Dec 10, 2002 | 01:38 PM
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Maybe leetheslacker has a point. The 350Z doesnt gain much hp when a new exaust is put on.. think of replacing the entire exaust on a RX-8 and the gains it will have



Mazda should tweak up the hp alittle more.. its gotta be able to sell! So it needs to beat rustangs..



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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 04:17 PM
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Without a turbo version a exaust wont do much.



MazdaTrix even says on a N/A RX-7 a cat back exaust is only good for like 5hp.



Most tuning magazines will even say a exaust doesnt do much for performance on a N/A car, its more for looks and sound.



Mazda took away the strong periphial ports on the renesis so Im not sure how a aftermarket turbo would work either.
Old Dec 10, 2002 | 04:22 PM
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The price goes up, the hp goes down. How's that work?
Old Dec 10, 2002 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Dec 10 2002, 05:22 PM
The price goes up, the hp goes down. How's that work?
******* typical is what it is, lol
Old Dec 10, 2002 | 05:18 PM
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At this rate it will be 60K and have a tow bar on the front for big hills.
Old Dec 10, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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I read 247hp also, but I think they actually dynoed. If Mazda is saying 280, and road and track is saying 247, 33hp loss through the drive rain, is that possible??



I still think the Rx-8 is going to cream any other car in the price range once it hits the twisties. Straight line speed means little or nothing to me. Plus I think the gearing and were the rotary is making the power it will still kill a 350z.



About the exhaust, the number one place to make power on a n/a rotary is in the intake and exhaust. I would like to see the gains from a full exhaust on the new renesis.
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Originally Posted by CSP12a' date='Dec 10 2002, 08:31 PM
About the exhaust, the number one place to make power on a n/a rotary is in the intake and exhaust. I would like to see the gains from a full exhaust on the new renesis.
What stats do you have to prove this statement?

If you mean to go so far as porting and what not yes, but a bolt on exaust is minimal gain on a N/A rotory, as well these b.s cold air intakes.



Only reason its such a great gain on lets say a otherwise stock TII is because it will let the car boost more.

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