What have you guys heard. What I have heard so far.



There will be a Mazdaspeed RX-8 coming out next year RUMOR has it it will have some sort of forced induction.



I have also heard Mazda is not having very good luck boosting these engines the side seals do not like the boost at all and are blowing worse than an apex seal at 40 PSI.





Again these are RUMORS. Anyone have any info to dispell these rumors???

well the dealers got the service books the other day, and apparently the high power engines get a seperate t body that bypasses the afm.

there are also apparently 6 injectors on the high power model, i say apparently becuase the microfiche only shows 4.



the tranny is like the 6 speed miata, but it has triple cone synchros 1-4



mike

Very true you are. Their will be a MS Rx-8 coming out and it will be forced induction. I just talked to a dealer who said it should hit the market 8 months after the rx-8. Sounds to close to me but that is what he said. Also I wouldn't be surprised if they did keep it N/A. But their was more talking of supercharging it....

superchargers suck... turbos are where its at...

i have heard that the new renisis motors cant support a turbo because of the location of where the ports are. i am not sure about that but if they made that into a turbo that would be sweet.

I have heard that as well, but who knows, wonder if they could supercharge.

well i hope what you guys hear is correct

The mazdaspeed rx-8 is on the drawing board and it will endoubtebly have more hp, how they will get we'll have to wait and see.

I read the same thing about the exhaust setup. According to Sport Compact the MS RX-8 will have suspension, brake, exhaust and body changes, but no changes to the Renesis.

Another rumor that I heard was that the production models have a lot better low- mid range torque than the pre-production models. They corrected the thing-a-ma-jig and the doo hickeys.

i know mazdaspeed is itching to slap turbos on the RENESIS......... so sooner or later it will show up with some "suckers"

I just got the RX-8 today. After looking at it, there is no space for a turbo kit. A supercharger kit is much more feasible.



Chuck Huang

Oh yea, I forgot Chuck was getting one too.. damn, no room you say.. well, sorry to hear that.

you know what? make room!!!

If Lingenfelter can TT a C5, you can turbocharge an RX-8. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png Just run the piping through the suspension like he did.

the turbines gonna be in the glove box...



mike

Do you guys like the 7 more than the 8?

I do. But just give it time and everyone will start liking them.

he can also twin-turbocharge a cadillac escalade xlt...pushing 670 awd hp, or something to that effect.



where there's a will, there's a way.

I saw a rwd volvo with the turbine next to the diff...all of the piping acted as in intercooler. I bet it was a little laggy.

in geologic terms i'm sure its quite spunky



mike

yeah after looking closely at it. it IS TIGHT! the frame rail sits right next to the motor. on a side note, the motor mounts look promising to be able to slap one in another body fairly easily. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



one thing that sparked my intrest is something i have seen able ibara do for years and he told me a long time ago that it was for space (which i believed at the time). anyone ever see how he (on BOTH the r100 and the FD) make the TB face the front of the car and have the *elbo* face the TB that way? do you knwo what i am saying? i dont know if they both know something i am not aware of, or if mazda designed it that way to have the volume of the smaler *plenum* made up by lengthening the runners AND for space???

note: (i have not done any testing to see the difference of volume, just quick observations that the 8's looked smaller overall)



i hope some of that made sence....

Hey, does anyone know which car it was that Mazda made for the Australian market that had axial-flow turbines for the turbochargers? If you find it let me know ASAP please. I figure turbocharger size shouldn't be as big a problem if all of the exhaust-side parts are actually mounted in/along the exhaust pipes. (And yes, such a car existed, sold in the early '90s. I used to have a brochure for it given to me for part of a class, but I've since lost it).

for the strip you want a supercharger, for most everything else a turbo seems like a better deal. and if the ms rx-8 doesnt have a turbo, all im saying is that ms is for girls.

it has to have more hp, they aren't going to put 280 hp in the MPS 6 only to have it beat a 250 hp MSP RX-8.



a company wouldn't do that, that's like chevy putting 400 AWD hp in an impala for $30K only to have it beat a z06 corvette for $50K. that wouldn't happen, and i dont think mazda would let it happen either.

I saw one at the dealer. he told me to come back on sat and i can push it on the closed business streets https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

He gave me his rumor of a twin turbo setup for the Mazdaspeed one. I should visit Zeil Motorsports and find out if its true sisnce they did the turbo Protoge. I would think a supercharger makes more sense, since it won't need an intercooler with low boost and it will help low end.



Anyhow Panspeed made a turbo RX-8 about a year ago! I beleive it's about 550PS and I posted a link for it on the RX-8 forum, so it can be done.

post the link here!

yeah...retards like me dont even know where the hell the rx8 forum is...

RX-8 forum

Panspeed Turbo RX-8 Thread I posted a year ago

Linkt to Panspeed Turbo RX-8

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~glenyur...panspeed-1.jpg

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~glenyuri/greddy-rx8.jpg

I just read a ton of threads on the RX-8 Forum. Firstly it is obvious that it is related to the RX7Club there are 3 kinds of people in there. Those who truly know their **** but think their **** doesnt stink. Those who dont know **** but can bullshit well and create an aura of knowing ****. Those who dont know **** and admit it but are being mislead by the bullshitters.



After reading for an hour I have one last thing to say then I will wait until Mazda says something or someone throws down 210RWHP.



I wanted to buy a RX-8 preferably a Mazdaspeed addition. I would never buy the fist cars off the line in fear that they are a mess. I needed a new car so I bought a CooperS (contemplating the JCW kit) to keep for 2 years until hopefully the Mazdaspeed RX-8 is out. As of right now I have no interest in the RX-8 especially in light of all the "problems" people are having with them.



I do believe the RX-8 is pretty quick as it is right now but I think it should be quicker. Its 0-60 times are not very impressive for a 250HP - 2800 lb. car the dodge SRT-4 kills it by half a second 0-60 and by 1.5 seconds in the 1/4. I know the RX-8 corners well but you need some balls to get to the corners quickly. I know I Autocross and was amazed how much faster my 7 was everywhere after getting another 50 RWHP.



I will compare this car to the RX-7 bacause that is all Madza Corp has been doing since they got some running prototypes on the road. Have you seen all the PR videos of the 8 and the 7 racing on a road course. Mazda is comparing them so I will.



They are supposed to be race inspired sports cars with 4 seats. Have you seen the print ads or the comercials. Thay are not advertising them as grocery getters.





I have my Mini to play with now and suspect I will be keeping it a lot longer than expected. At least I have my 400 HP RX-7 to play with.





Product loyalty is not an excuse to buy a car that is not what it is claimed to be.

superchargers take more power to get going then turbos

Not true

callaway did the protege, didnt they?



mike

A good SC only takes 1/2 HP to turn. A good turbo doesn't require any.



But, in a car that already has pleny of HP and no torque I think a SC would make more sense. You can always change pulleys and run 10 or 11 lbs out of a SC if desired.. but I think 6 or 7 lbs on stock pulleys and 200 lb/ft of torque is a better idea.



This debate almost mirros the S2000 debate: SC or turbo? Hell the two cas even have almost identical power specs.

What planet did you learn physics on?

A turbo restricts exhaust gases somewhat while its being spooled up....

i wrote a paper on it for my engineering seminar class last year at A&M.



hope this helps some.